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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: fatbaldguy on October 11, 2012, 05:31:40 PM
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Well boys and girls. It is time. Next Wednesday, the right eye gets done. Off work for a week, then light duty. Gawd, I have to sit in the office til I can do the heavy lifting and such again. Left eye a month later. Somebody will have corporate and HR on speed dial I'm sure. Maybe I'll get sent to training to become a field trainer while on light duty. Funny in a way, I'm supposed to keep my mouth shut, but they want me to train new hires how to work.
I don't want to vote for Romney, I don't trust the flip-flopping SOB. But if I, and many others don't, then the assclown stays in office. You mean to tell me there isn't a better choice out there? Or is it that they just don't want to go through the rigamarole and circus that it takes to become the nominee? I wish a good libertarian candidate had a snowballs chance in this country. If Gary Johnson will run in 2016, I may have to give him some money after election day.
And why is it that so many people need/want to vote early? We have election day for a reason. If people think they are disenfranchised because they don't want to, or can't be bothered with voting ON election day, they should HTFU and get to the polls on ELECTION DAY!!!. Early voting stinks of fraud.
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Well boys and girls. It is time. Next Wednesday, the right eye gets done. Off work for a week, then light duty. Gawd, I have to sit in the office til I can do the heavy lifting and such again. Left eye a month later. Somebody will have corporate and HR on speed dial I'm sure. Maybe I'll get sent to training to become a field trainer while on light duty. Funny in a way, I'm supposed to keep my mouth shut, but they want me to train new hires how to work.
I don't want to vote for Romney, I don't trust the flip-flopping SOB. But if I, and many others don't, then the assclown stays in office. You mean to tell me there isn't a better choice out there? Or is it that they just don't want to go through the rigamarole and circus that it takes to become the nominee? I wish a good libertarian candidate had a snowballs chance in this country. If Gary Johnson will run in 2016, I may have to give him some money after election day.
And why is it that so many people need/want to vote early? We have election day for a reason. If people think they are disenfranchised because they don't want to, or can't be bothered with voting ON election day, they should HTFU and get to the polls on ELECTION DAY!!!. Early voting stinks of fraud.
That's been my take for years.
We will most likely never have a 'qualified' citizen as PotUS because anyone intelligent enough, civic-minded enough, and anti 'political machine' will not subject themselves to the crap that is required to get elected.
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Remember, the point of campaigning is to get people to vote for you.
You can't do that by saying I'm going to let all you f*cking drones either get a job or starve, you can't do that by announcing that as of Feb 1 all illegal border crossers will be shot on site, you can't do that by saying CCW will no longer be a choice, it will be a requirement.
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And why is it that so many people need/want to vote early? We have election day for a reason. If people think they are disenfranchised because they don't want to, or can't be bothered with voting ON election day, they should HTFU and get to the polls on ELECTION DAY!!!. Early voting stinks of fraud.
I am on the permanent early voting list because standing in line is for chumps who haven't figured out they can be on the mail in ballot.
Why wait for 45+ minutes to vote when I can vote in the comfort of my living room and send it in early?
Besides, I'm going to kill Bambi in MN on election week and kill South Dakota pheasants the following weekend.
Some people do have valid reasons. ;D
Sorry to hear about the eye problems, hope all goes well.
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I don't want to vote for Romney, I don't trust the flip-flopping SOB. But if I, and many others don't, then the assclown stays in office.
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Read today's Krauthhammer opinion.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-big-bird-counterattack/2012/10/11/c605e224-13cc-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-big-bird-counterattack/2012/10/11/c605e224-13cc-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html)
....he’s not very good on his feet.
His problem is that he doesn’t think so. He not only believes his own press, he believes his own mythology. He actually said (in 2007): “I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And . . . I’m a better political director than my political director.”
Obama is a man of considerable intelligence. But he’s not half as transcendently smart as he thinks he is.
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... We have election day for a reason. If people think they are disenfranchised because they don't want to, or can't be bothered with voting ON election day, they should HTFU and get to the polls on ELECTION DAY!!!. Early voting stinks of fraud.
Don't know if "early" voting stinks of fraud anymore than all of the "electronic" voting.
BUT
I may be a chump for standing in line on election day, but I think it's part of the process: To meet and greet your neighbors at the precinct. Get to know them. Talk to them. One day we'll go to a precinct-less system. What with computer and 4G and WiFi and everything. Just show up at any voting place anywhere. And one day you'll vote from any computer anywhere. But when those days come I think we'll be loosing a lot in terms of the social interaction and peer accountability that goes along with the "archaic" system we now use.
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In Hamilton County in Ohio, I used to vote in the garage of a house down the street that was the local polling place. They switched polling places from the local areas to a combined one in a conference room of a motel....I think because of all the publicity the voting process in Ohio was receiving at the time.
Well, the new system had us standing in line for over 2 hours...outside...and it happened to be raining that day. Never again.
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I can't believe what I'm hearing here.
There are places in the world, Iran for one, China for another, where people are facing tanks with nothing but a briefcase trying to get the right to vote.
And you bitch about standing in line ?
Bet you'll be REAL impressive come a revolution.
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I can't believe what I'm hearing here.
There are places in the world, Iran for one, China for another, where people are facing tanks with nothing but a briefcase trying to get the right to vote.
And you bitch about standing in line ?
Bet you'll be REAL impressive come a revolution.
I'm sure that if they had another way to vote, they wouldn't face the tanks....or stand in line just to prove something to someone.
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And why is it that so many people need/want to vote early? We have election day for a reason. If people think they are disenfranchised because they don't want to, or can't be bothered with voting ON election day, they should HTFU and get to the polls on ELECTION DAY!!!. Early voting stinks of fraud.
I didn't think about commenting on this when I posted earlier, but have had time to mull it over a bit.
Before 2008, I agreed with the above statement whole-heartedly and also took the same stance as Alf. But after being caught in line during the 2008 general election and very nearly deciding to leave without voting due to the pain involved I decided to vote early from then on.
Standing in one spot for too long or a slow-moving line is dreadfully painful for me if it goes on for more than about 20 minutes. The damaged nerves and what's left of the muscle tissue in my left leg begins to scream after a while.....and then move into my lower back. Our local polling place is small, but covers a large area for its size.......and even though there are 8 voting booths, there is only one line going into the registration area...... so it gets backed up, even during off-year elections.
By the time I had cast my ballot in 2008, my wife and I had been in line for an hour and a half........ when we were done, I literally just let the gate down on my truck and eased into the bed of the truck and had her haul me the two miles home. I have an old HS friend who is a double amputee and it can be tough for him as well, even on a good day.
As to voting fraud, if it can be done with early voting (and yes, it has been a major concern of mine since I began doing it) it can (and will) be done on Election Day as well. In fact it may be even easier on Election Day due to the larger turnout and extra confusion.
Now I said all this not to disagree with you..... because I do feel that if you are physically able and are not going to be away from home, you should try to make an effort to vote on the actual general Election Day. I just wanted to point out that there are some legitimate reasons to vote early.
YMMV, of course.
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I requested my absentee ballot because I WILL be overseas. neverr fails. every election I am out to sea. not gonna happen this time. I'm here close enough to get my ballot and send it in early so my vote WILL be counted.
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Pretty serious drift, here. We start with a brother who is facing eye surgery and end up with a discussion of absentee ballots.
WTF?
I have incipient cataracts--too soon to remove 'em, but enough that they impact my vision--especially at night. Has nothing to do with my absentee ballot, which I will fill out in bright light while sitting on my sofa.
So, have a little compassion for the fatbaldguy. Life is tough. It's tougher when you can't see what's coming.
I've got your back, my friend. Stay tough. We old guys need to show the wimpy upcoming generation how it's done--with style.
Crusader Rabbit
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Pretty serious drift, here. We start with a brother who is facing eye surgery and end up with a discussion of absentee ballots.
WTF?
Crusader Rabbit
Hey, don't look at me........FBG mentioned early voting and the election in the OP......... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Pretty serious drift, here. We start with a brother who is facing eye surgery and end up with a discussion of absentee ballots.
WTF?
I have incipient cataracts--too soon to remove 'em, but enough that they impact my vision--especially at night. Has nothing to do with my absentee ballot, which I will fill out in bright light while sitting on my sofa.
So, have a little compassion for the fatbaldguy. Life is tough. It's tougher when you can't see what's coming.
I've got your back, my friend. Stay tough. We old guys need to show the wimpy upcoming generation how it's done--with style.
Crusader Rabbit
Sometimes a 'drifted' or 'jacked' thread is better than the original intent. I was just rambling 'cause the thought of someone intentionally cutting on my eye scares my pucker string right tight, and I can't believe I have to have this done at 54. When all goes well, I'll be able to see sights clearly again, along with the target. The life is tough line is great. It's tougher if you're stupid, is what I remember.
I show those young punks at work every day. I also tell them to 'Get off my lawn'! Damn kids don't even know what a Gran Torino is. ::)
If there is a reason someone needs to vote early, I'm all for it. But just cause your (in the collective not personal) too lazy to make the effort.......
Think of the early days in post colonial America. Folks would travel for days to vote ON election DAY.
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I sincerely hope your surgery goes well!
However, I'm older'n you and I AIN'T OLD! I'm all busted up but I'm still keeping up with the young'uns!
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Heck! The Rabbit ain't old either! Wiser maybe...but not old!
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Sometimes a 'drifted' or 'jacked' thread is better than the original intent. I was just rambling 'cause the thought of someone intentionally cutting on my eye scares my pucker string right tight, and I can't believe I have to have this done at 54. When all goes well, I'll be able to see sights clearly again, along with the target. The life is tough line is great. It's tougher if you're stupid, is what I remember.
I show those young punks at work every day. I also tell them to 'Get off my lawn'! Damn kids don't even know what a Gran Torino is. ::)
If there is a reason someone needs to vote early, I'm all for it. But just cause your (in the collective not personal) too lazy to make the effort.......
Think of the early days in post colonial America. Folks would travel for days to vote ON election DAY.
The also carried only muzzle loading weapons, used outdoor privies ... I bet they would not do any three of these things if they could get the job done an easier way.
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If (local boy) Robert Rogers ever saw an AK he would cum in his pants.
Drift, It's what's for reading ;D
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If you can't get to the polls for a valid reason (and deer huntin' ain't one of them), like medical or service overseas, then I believe the absentee ballot is warranted. But no one should be voting early! All votes should be counted on election day so as not to disenfranchise those who pay attention to the candidates and choose wisely or actually dissuade regular voters from even going to the polls! We've carried political correctness to the election process and that goes too far. From the comments to this post I sense some of us are plain lazy and some think the rest of us are stupid. Freedom ain't free someone said, so let's pay a little for it damn it! Let's get off our dead asses and go to the polls and pay the easy price of being free because some Americans already have paid the ultimate price for us.
Hope all goes well with your cataract op. My optometrist says I'll be heading there someday...but not just yet. So far so good...
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If you can't get to the polls for a valid reason (and deer huntin' ain't one of them), like medical or service overseas, then I believe the absentee ballot is warranted. But no one should be voting early! All votes should be counted on election day so as not to disenfranchise those who pay attention to the candidates and choose wisely or actually dissuade regular voters from even going to the polls! We've carried political correctness to the election process and that goes too far. From the comments to this post I sense some of us are plain lazy and some think the rest of us are stupid. Freedom ain't free someone said, so let's pay a little for it damn it! Let's get off our dead asses and go to the polls and pay the easy price of being free because some Americans already have paid the ultimate price for us.
Hope all goes well with your cataract op. My optometrist says I'll be heading there someday...but not just yet. So far so good...
Don't limit yourself to standing in line to vote in your effort to pay for Freedom... As FBG pointed out, folks 'back then' traveled for days to get to vote...some of them walking, I'd bet.
I suggest you make the trek...maybe start out walking the day before election, or at least a few hours before the polls open and make the trek round about to get there on time. After all, that is how they paid for their freedom then.
Myself, I think it is inefficient and a waste of time....unless YOU choose it for your own reasons.
For me, standing in the rain for a few hours is not an efficient use of my time when I can vote just as will without that.
I do get an absentee ballot. That is what it is called, even though I will not be absent from the precinct on election day. They receive the request by mail and require either my driver's license number or the last 4 of my SSN...and my address and other information. This gives them much more time and ability to verify that I am who I say I am than they would on election day. They also mail the ballot to my verified address so, overall, fraud is less likely than in person voting on election day.
Further, when I receive my ballot, I have as much time as I need to research every name and issue on the ballot. There always seems to be some issue or office up for the vote that I had not been aware of.
So not only is this process a more efficient use of my time, it is less prone to fraud and allows me to make more informed choices than if I had appeared on election day.
If you choose to cast your vote in the manner you choose, I have absolutely no problem with that, but when someone calls me on my manner of voting as being lazy or 'paying' less for our freedom than others, I will defend my position. If my defense makes you feel I think you stupid, that is not my intent.
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As a matter of fact Solus, I DO walk to the polls, rain or shine, hot or cold.
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Before it gets too heated in here....
Keep your skin thick, and your remarks civil, please. I'm certain that there is no personal animosity intended in my remarks, and I hope there is none in others.
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Nah, just giving Solus a raspberry ;D
HEY ! Wait a minute !
I can MOON him !
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Got one for FQ as well .
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As a matter of fact Solus, I DO walk to the polls, rain or shine, hot or cold.
Figured you did =)
I walked to mine for 20 years when they had it in the neighborhoods I lived in.
When they consolidated the polling places several miles away and ended up with 2hr lines, I found a workable alternative.
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Nah, just giving Solus a raspberry ;D
HEY ! Wait a minute !
I can MOON him !
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Got one for FQ as well .
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Talk about a scrawny moon....how do you keep your pants up? Suspenders?
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If you can't get to the polls for a valid reason (and deer huntin' ain't one of them)
Thankfully, I don't need anyones justification to fill out my ballot today that came in the mail yesterday.
Would you feel better if I had said that I have been planning a 4000 mile round trip drive for 2 years to be with family and to help support paralyzed/wounded veterans?
That's exactly what I'm going out of town for. The deer hunt is to be with family and to help fill their freezer for the coming year.
The pheasant hunt is so wheelchair bound vets can get to shoot at birds they would otherwise only see on TV. To see a vet in a wheelchair with no legs and only one arm shoot at a bird I kicked up for him is going to be worth a lot more than what I'm going to pay in gas to get there.
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Before it gets too heated in here....
Keep your skin thick, and your remarks civil, please. I'm certain that there is no personal animosity intended in my remarks, and I hope there is none in others.
NP here :D :D
who listens to what a fat bald guy says anyway ;D ;D
Take care.
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who listens to what a fat bald guy says anyway ;D ;D
I never knew my wife had a brother! ;D
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Thankfully, I don't need anyones justification to fill out my ballot today that came in the mail yesterday.
Would you feel better if I had said that I have been planning a 4000 mile round trip drive for 2 years to be with family and to help support paralyzed/wounded veterans?
That's exactly what I'm going out of town for. The deer hunt is to be with family and to help fill their freezer for the coming year.
The pheasant hunt is so wheelchair bound vets can get to shoot at birds they would otherwise only see on TV. To see a vet in a wheelchair with no legs and only one arm shoot at a bird I kicked up for him is going to be worth a lot more than what I'm going to pay in gas to get there.
To this I call to Larry the Cable Guy to say, "Git-R-Done!!!!!"
And more power to ya!!!
;)
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Talk about a scrawny moon....how do you keep your pants up? Suspenders?
Just for Solus
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The one time I got an absentee ballot I had to stand in a long line to get it, but when I vote on election day it seems there's never more than one person ahead of me. It's much faster for me to just go to the polls.
Good luck on the cataracts operation FBG.
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Just for Solus
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You're an Artist.. Who would have guessed? ;D