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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: blackwolfe on January 04, 2013, 12:49:52 AM
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Thinking about getting a single stack 9 mm. Thinking of steel or alloy, but might go polymer. Older models OK.
Any suggestion?
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New or used? What's you price range? What are you going to use it for?
Being a 1911 kinda guy, I'd suggest you look at some of those. They are not cheap though. Kimber makes a lot of their models in a 9mm version. If you have the coin, checkout the Dan Wesson Guardian.
Most of the new single stacks are a lot smaller and/or are sub-compacts. Not my cup of tea.
The Ruger SR9 isn't a single stack but it is amazingly thin for a double.
Used:
The old Sig P225/P6 is a great gun that wont break the bank.
The old S&W 39s can still be found for a decent price as well.
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There aren't all that many single stack 9mm out there except for mini pistols, since 9 is so narrow anyway. You get a smaller round that is commonly held to require multiple shots for a stop, but you reduce capacity with single stack. I don't think it's a very popular platform.
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Offhand, the ones I can think of are:
Para Carry 9/PDA9
Kahr K/P/CW9
SIG 225/P6, 239
S&W 908, 39
Diamondback DB9
Ruger LC9
Various 1911s from STI,SW, Kimber, and others in 3.5, 4.25, and 5"
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Definitely take a long look at the Kahr line before you make a final choice, I have one of the little CM9's and it's a very well made pistol. If they made a high capacity 9mm I may have bought one instead of my FN.
MP
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My daughter-in-law has a Ruger LC9 and loves it. I have not shot it, but have held and fondled it. My son says it is a sweet shooting gun. I have never had the inclination to own a 9mm of any type, but if I did, it would be a strong first choice.
I have a Colt .380 mini Gov't Model and the Ruger LC9 is not much larger and because of the polymer frame is about the same weight and it packs 7+1 of the stronger 9mm.
http://www.ruger.com/products/lc9/models.html
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I just bought my wife the M&P Shield. She bought me the Kahr K9 Elite '03. Both, of course, are single stack 9's. I have wanted that Kahr for years. It was worth the wait. EXCEPTIONAL shooter! Good luck finding a Shield unless you are willing to pay substantially above list price. (I did, but it made my wife happy. Fair trade IMO.)
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If you want a 1911 platform check out the STI Spartan and Trojan. I have a Shield and love it! The Sig 938 is a small ss 9mm which I am hearing a lot of good things about but it is more a pistol for the more experienced shooter. If my eyes were a little better I would probably pick one up and see if it might replace my Shield.
FWIW
Richard
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Thanks for the input. My biggest problem is that I don't know what I want. I have smaller hands and a lot of the double stack 9 mm just seem big for my hand. I have an old Browning Hi-Power that fits well as do 1911s. I once had a Ruger P89 that I sold, as it was just to big. Haven't been a big fan of most of the poly framed pistols as they just seem clunky and muzzle heavy. I was thinking of using it as a carry gun on some occasions. I know that 9 mm may not be the best, but I usually carry a Walther PPKS in .380 as do many others carry .380. Fondled a few at the gun shop today, but nothing called my name. Still thinking this one out.
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How about a Walther PPS?
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Small hands + 1911 + 9mm = Springfield EMP.
I really loved mine but I thought it was just a little too small for my average sized hands.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=155 (http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=155)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZppgozRAnZClbPuyzAieZqO9SLuim3XJtk4YYNyUZGNbBQBplAQ)
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Small hands + 1911 + 9mm = Springfield EMP.
I really loved mine but I thought it was just a little too small for my average sized hands.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=155 (http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=155)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZppgozRAnZClbPuyzAieZqO9SLuim3XJtk4YYNyUZGNbBQBplAQ)
If price were no concern, the EMP would be my first choice, hands down, because it is a 1911, and the mini-1911 issues are solved because the entire gun is scaled down like the Colt mini .380 1911's. I fell in love with the EMP the first time I held one...but could not cough up the asking price.
Economics were the motivating factor for why I would look at the Ruger.
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Will look into the Springfield EMP and the Ruger. I like Rugers, just haven't been able to wrap my head around the poly pistols yet.
What about a Para carry in 9 mm? Spied a used one recently. Was also thinking maybe A Smith 3913 if I can find one.
The Smith 39 looks right, but haven' fondled one yet
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M&P Shield shoots very well, is very very slim and very affordable if you shop around. Between $400-$475 is about right, anything more is bogus.
This one is $449.00 NIB with two mags.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=325302290
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M&P Shield shoots very well, is very very slim and very affordable if you shop around. Between $400-$475 is about right, anything more is bogus.
This one is $449.00 NIB with two mags.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=325302290
The last time the shop had a Shield in stock it cost $419.
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The Para mag's are hard to find.The 39 mags are on back order.Both good guns.Just ordered 3913 & CS9 mags.Check out the Chief special 9 great ccw gun.
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Will look into the Springfield EMP and the Ruger. I like Rugers, just haven't been able to wrap my head around the poly pistols yet.
What about a Para carry in 9 mm? Spied a used one recently. Was also thinking maybe A Smith 3913 if I can find one.
The Smith 39 looks right, but haven' fondled one yet
Good luck finding one.
I have seen a few of the S&W 469 and 669 for sale used recently, they were the compact version of the double stack Model 59 .
About the same price I paid for a new one in 1986 , under $500
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The last time the shop had a Shield in stock it cost $419.
Shoot Straight, a big FL dealer had a show special in WPB in Sept, at $369. out the door. Ah, the good ol' days..... :-\
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If you want a 1911 platform check out the STI Spartan and Trojan.
FWIW
Richard
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Don't overlook the Springfield 9 MM. It comes in both a Tactical Model with Novak Sights, and the Target Model with fully adjustable Target Sights. It's quickly becoming my favorite 9 MM paper puncher.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/4New1911sCZ97B007.jpg)
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Today Springfield announced a XDS 9.
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I love my Kahr CM9!
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If you decide to go plastic, look at the Kel Tec LC9. I like mine. Carry it more often than the J frame now.
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I have a RIA CS in a 3.5 inch parkarized frame and slide that I carry and it shoots anykind of .45 ammo with no problem.
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Well I appreciate all the input. Should have a 3913 in about a week or so. Probably paid a little more than I should have.
Got a line on a slightly used Ruger SR9. I like the Kahr also, maybe I'll pick one up in .40. I like the 1911 9mm and the small 1911 .45s too. So many guns and so little money. Maybe I can get billt to adopt me.