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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tt11758 on January 15, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
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http://www.kptv.com/story/20596938/local-sheriff-tells-vp-biden-i-will-not-enforce-new-gun-regulations (http://www.kptv.com/story/20596938/local-sheriff-tells-vp-biden-i-will-not-enforce-new-gun-regulations)
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The sheriff of Linn County sent a letter to Vice President Joe Biden informing him he will not enforce any gun laws he deems unconstitutional.
In a letter dated Jan. 14 and sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in Washington D.C., Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller wrote politicians are attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims in recent criminal events.
He wrote honest and law-abiding people should not be prevented from owning certain types of guns or ammunition magazines.
"Any federal regulation enacted by Congress or by executive order of the president offending the constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies," Mueller wrote. "Nor will I permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of Linn County, OR."
The sheriff made his feelings perfectly clear in wrapping up his letter.
"In summary, it is the position of this sheriff that I refuse to participate, or stand idly by, while my citizens are turned into criminals due to the unconstitutional actions of misguided politicians."
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MY SHERIFF! My buddy forwarded this to me today and I posted it on FB. We voted for him without really knowing much other than who endorsed him and he had signs available at the Republican HQ. His sign will be in my yard next election cycle.
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Assuming we have an future election cycle.
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It is my deepest hope that like-minded sheriffs across the country will follow this brave man's actions.
Sheriff Mueller, Sheriff Joe and others like them will go down in history as either heroes or traitors, depending upon which side wins.
Dark days are upon this nation and storms threaten.
Be prepared, my brothers.
I weep for my nation,
Crusader
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Another Sheriff Standing Tall.
We have had only about a hand full of them reported here.
Let us hope the vast majority honor their oath of office and stand by the constitution and the 2A.
County Sheriffs truly may be called upon to be America's Last Line of Defense..our last hope.
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There is one more line of defense if the people still have honor and guts enough .
If they don't they deserve the result .
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There is one more line of defense if the people still have honor and guts enough .
If they don't they deserve the result .
Yeah...but that last line will be more effective with the Sheriff leading it.
I did have a thought though.
If the sheriffs do stand up and win this time, there is no doubt that situation will be 'fixed'. Either nerfing the power of the sheriffs or making sure the 'right' sheriffs get in....
It might just delay the house cleaning that is needed...
Don't know how good or bad that would be.
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Well, I just wrote (emailed) my local sheriff during the President's speech and asked him where he stood. Can't wait to see his response, if in fact he does respond. In his defense, I'd be surprised to see him take a hard line approach to these matters given the political climate in this state. He is a Republican in a sea of Democrat sharks. We'll see.
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I visited my sheriff on Monday this week. I had never met him personally and was a bit nervous while waiting my turn. He invited me into his office and I introduced myself. Getting right to the point I referenced the Jackson County KY sheriff and asked him for his take on all of this. He said the day he is asked to confiscate guns will be his last day on the job. He said neither he nor his deputies would honor such a request. Then, we talked a bit more on the state of affairs, specifically Obama. I will not repeat exactly what the sheriff told me, but to say we have agreement on what might happen should O lean any farther toward a monarchy.
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I visited my sheriff on Monday this week. I had never met him personally and was a bit nervous while waiting my turn. He invited me into his office and I introduced myself. Getting right to the point I referenced the Jackson County KY sheriff and asked him for his take on all of this. He said the day he is asked to confiscate guns will be his last day on the job. He said neither he nor his deputies would honor such a request. Then, we talked a bit more on the state of affairs, specifically Obama. I will not repeat exactly what the sheriff told me, but to say we have agreement on what might happen should O lean any farther toward a monarchy.
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Let him know he doesn't have to do what is asked of him if it is unconstitutional. And he will do more good staying in his job and the fight. Let them try to force him to do it.
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http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Gun-Control-Pushback/2013/01/17/id/471825?s=al&promo_code=11FA7-1
From Oregon to Mississippi, President Barack Obama's proposed ban on new assault weapons and large-capacity magazines struck a nerve among rural lawmen and lawmakers, many of whom vowed to ignore any restrictions — and even try to stop federal officials from enforcing gun policy in their jurisdictions.
"A lot of sheriffs are now standing up and saying, 'Follow the Constitution,'" said Josephine County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson, whose territory covers the timbered mountains of southwestern Oregon.
But their actual powers to defy federal law are limited. And much of the impassioned rhetoric amounts to political posturing until — and if — Congress acts.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, said Wednesday it's unlikely an assault weapons ban would actually pass the House of Representatives. Absent action by Congress, all that remains are 23 executive orders Obama announced that apply only to the federal government, not local or state law enforcement.
Gun advocates have seen Obama as an enemy despite his expression of support for the interpretation of the Second Amendment as a personal right to have guns. So his call for new measures — including background checks for all gun buyers and Senate confirmation of a director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — triggered new vows of defiance.
In Mississippi, Gov. Phil Bryant, a Republican, urged the Legislature to make it illegal to enforce any executive order by the president that violates the Constitution.
"If someone kicks open my door and they're entering my home, I'd like as many bullets as I could to protect my children, and if I only have three, then the ability for me to protect my family is greatly diminished," Bryant said. "And what we're doing now is saying, 'We're standing against the federal government taking away our civil liberties.'"
Tennessee Republican state Rep. Joe Carr wants to make it a state crime for federal agents to enforce any ban on firearms or ammunition. Carr instead called for more armed guards at schools.
"We're tired of political antics, cheap props of using children as bait to gin up emotional attachment for an issue that quite honestly doesn't solve the problem," Carr said.
Legislative proposals to pre-empt new federal gun restrictions also have arisen in Wyoming, Utah and Alaska.
A Wyoming bill specifies that any federal limitation on guns would be unenforceable. It also would make it a state felony for federal agents to try to enforce restrictions.
"I think there are a lot of people who would want to take all of our guns if they could," said co-sponsor Rep. Kendell Kroeker, a Republican. "And they're only restrained by the opposition of the people, and other lawmakers who are concerned about our rights."l
Republican state Sen. Larry Hicks credited Wyoming's high rate of gun ownership for a low rate of gun violence.
"Our kids grow up around firearms, and they also grow up hunting, and they know what the consequences are of taking a life," Hicks said. "We're not insulated from the real world in Wyoming."
In Utah, some Republicans are preparing legislation to exempt the state from federal gun laws — and fine any federal agents who try to seize guns. A bill in the Alaska House would make it a misdemeanor for a federal agent to enforce new restrictions on gun ownership.
While such proposals are eye-catching, they likely could never be implemented.
"The legislature can pass anything it wants," said Sam Kamin, a constitutional law professor at the University of Denver. "The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes that clearly unconstitutional. Where there's a conflict between state and federal law, the federal government is supreme."
Kamin and other legal experts said such disdain of Obama's proposals is reminiscent of former Confederate states' refusal to comply with federal law extending equal rights for blacks after the Civil War.
The National Sheriff's Association has supported administration efforts to combat gun violence after the Sandy Hook Elementary shootings. President Larry Amerson, sheriff of Calhoun, Ala., said he understands the frustrations of people in rural areas with the federal government. But he feels his oath of office binds him to uphold all laws.
"Any sheriff who knows his duty knows we don't enforce federal law, per se," said Amerson, a longtime firearms instructor and hunter.
Some rural sheriffs view the federal government as an adversary, with gun ownership at the core of that belief.
In Minnesota, Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole sent an open letter to residents saying he did not believe the federal government had the right to tell the states how to regulate firearms. He said he would refuse to enforce any federal mandate he felt violated constitutional rights.
The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, based in Fredericksburg, Texas, encourages that point of view. Founder Richard Mack, a former sheriff of Apache County, Ariz., speaks regularly at gatherings of Tea Party groups and gun rights organizations.
"I will tell Mr. Obama and everybody else who wants to impose gun control in America, that whether you like it or not, it is against the law," said Mack. "Now we have good sheriffs who are standing up and defending the law against our own president."
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The supremacy that they talk about in the article is BS. The states have every right to not enforce an unconstitutional law, and to arrest, fine and imprison anyone who tries to enforce such laws, as traitors.
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GO Sheriff Mack.
Mack was the first I heard to spread the word to sheriffs about their duty and how they can stand up to unconstitutional laws.
He might not have been the first, but he was the first I encountered. Bought his book and it gave me hope that we wouldn't be facing this alone.
I do wonder how much influence his actions have had in leading to the current opposition at the county level to this policy.