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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Ksail101 on May 07, 2008, 11:02:25 AM
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This is crazy. I just thought I should share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMhOzUxw4s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMhOzUxw4s&feature=related)
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That looks so counterintuitive. ???
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Neat but akward. Looks kinda hard to hit anything accurately.. unless your the designated supressing fire guy. ;D
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LOL Its all about the killer shades the guy is wearin in the begining. LOL. I put this up as a joke. But I think people are taking it serious. Oh well.
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A friend of mine does a trick that works about the same, with a piece of heavy twine. Tie it to the bolt handle of an ak47, loop it around the trigger guard and trigger and then tie it to the rear sling mount. Now take up the slack on the twine until the trigger is pulled, everytime the bolt slams home, it pulls the trigger. You have to work at getting the twine length right so your hand does not have to come very far off the stock, but it does allow for a proper cheek weld.
Have you ever seen John Brownings full auto lever action, works on the same principle. No I'm not making this up, I don't know that he ever built one, but he sure did draw it up.
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A friend of mine does a trick that works about the same, with a piece of heavy twine. Tie it to the bolt handle of an ak47, loop it around the trigger guard and trigger and then tie it to the rear sling mount. Now take up the slack on the twine until the trigger is pulled, everytime the bolt slams home, it pulls the trigger. You have to work at getting the twine length right so your hand does not have to come very far off the stock, but it does allow for a proper cheek weld.
Have you ever seen John Brownings full auto lever action, works on the same principle. No I'm not making this up, I don't know that he ever built one, but he sure did draw it up.
During the Cuban revolution they had something called a "Havana Winchester" not sure how they worked but they were full auto.
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I'm trying to figure out why the Atchison Accelerator was ruled a machinegun, while this device is not. Looks like the same physical principles to me. I have tried several of each type and it is all about trigger finesse. Hope "the Curse" does not descend on them too.
Mac.
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It looks like an extra trigger spring to me. I've seen lots of videos of guys bump-firing with no extra attachments at all but this does seem faster. I'm going to try bump-firing some of my guns this summer. I have to go out in the woods because the range won't even let you shoot "rapid fire". Single aimed shots only.
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That name Atchison sounds very familiar but it's the Akins Accelerator. It's illegal because you only have to pull the trigger one time and the gun does everything else. Therefore; Full-Auto. When you bump fire you have to physically pull the gun against your trigger finger for each shot. Semi-Auto. I don't know how Akins got that approved in the first place but he's suing now. I personally think machineguns are great and would like to have a bunch of them, but I agree with ATF for once in my life that this would be a post-1986 machinegun and illegal.
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Atchisson was the original design name for the current production AA-12 fully automatic magazine-fed shotgun.
And the Atchisson slew many a goblin in the service of Carl Lyons, the leader of Able Team.
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but I agree with ATF for once in my life
I bet it hurt to say THAT ;D
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Those sure are some "pretty boys" ;), are you kidding? What is the practicality of this?
Control is out the door, the video shows it. Not even "Gunter" the bicep boy could get a consistent group on target. They didn't show what they were shooting at either. Too gimmicky for me.
I'm going back to my Ronco 20 guage double barrel, coffee maker, with latte attachment. ;D
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With Ammo prices going up full auto (or there abouts ) is the LAST thing most of us want, or at least can afford ;D
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"At 700 rounds per minute, how many minutes can you carry?"
Clint Smith (IIRC)
I prefer to hit what I aim at, just funny that way.
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Junk. Save your money.
Erik
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Junk. Save your money.
Erik
Yep sure is, but you can bump a 10/22, took me a couple of tries but it can be done and it put a grin on my face. Also check ATF before you buy to see just how legal the item in question is, last I heard if the item is OUTSIDE of the frame od trigger guard is legal. I have not checked this law in over ten years so it might be a good idea. Federal prison I understand is no fun!