The Down Range Forum

Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on May 14, 2008, 01:52:46 PM

Title: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: ericire12 on May 14, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Just for the record:



The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits certain people from possessing a firearm.There are nine categories of persons prohibited from possessing firearms under the Gun Control Act:

        * Persons under indictment for, or convicted of, any crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding on year;
        * Fugitives from justice;
        * Persons who are unlawful users of, or addicted to, any controlled substance;
        * Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;
        * Illegal aliens, or aliens who were admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
        * Persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces;
        * Persons who have renounced their United States citizenship;
        * Persons subject to certain types of restraining orders; and
        * Persons who have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.


http://usgovinfo.about.com/www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/ch44.html


Talk amongst yourselves.....

Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Ron J on May 14, 2008, 04:11:21 PM
Safe to say, that if Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama gets elected that this list will include a lot more folks. 
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: DDMac on May 14, 2008, 04:43:54 PM
My only disagreement with the list relates to misdemeanor domestic violence convictions being a lifetime ban. Political grandstanding in my opinion. There should also be a process, other than the unwieldy and politicaly sensitive Presidential Pardon, to "earn a restoration" of lost rights for Federal felons. That being said, the penalty for possession of a gun or ammo by somebody on the list should be a mandatory 10 years. Warehouse them in Cuba until the word gets out.
Mac.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Hazcat on May 14, 2008, 04:48:48 PM
My only disagreement with the list relates to misdemeanor domestic violence convictions being a lifetime ban. Political grandstanding in my opinion. There should also be a process, other than the unwieldy and politicaly sensitive Presidential Pardon, to "earn a restoration" of lost rights for Federal felons. That being said, the penalty for possession of a gun or ammo by somebody on the list should be a mandatory 10 years. Warehouse them in Cuba until the word gets out.
Mac.

I'd say give them to Sheriff Joe!
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Mr.45 on May 14, 2008, 04:55:17 PM
I agree with Ron J. I also feel that laws should stay either where they are now or only change for the BETTER! I can say this because I live in a state (KS) that has few regulations and we just got class 3 laws passed. That wont change a thing for me since I have no desire to pay for the machine guns or licencing fees. Plus having a CCH I finally feel at least this state has a good (not perfect) grip on how firearms shouls be regulated. I cannot comment on returning freedoms to the reformed but I can gurantee if my life took a turn for the worst and I had to make a home of the Grey Bar Motel I would definately want my rights back!
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 18, 2008, 11:10:35 PM
Safe to say, that if Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama gets elected that this list will include a lot more folks. 

It will be easier to list those that can have a gun if he (or she) gets in ... NO ONE!
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 18, 2008, 11:13:14 PM
I agree with Ron J. I also feel that laws should stay either where they are now or only change for the BETTER! I can say this because I live in a state (KS) that has few regulations and we just got class 3 laws passed. That wont change a thing for me since I have no desire to pay for the machine guns or licencing fees. Plus having a CCH I finally feel at least this state has a good (not perfect) grip on how firearms shouls be regulated. I cannot comment on returning freedoms to the reformed but I can gurantee if my life took a turn for the worst and I had to make a home of the Grey Bar Motel I would definately want my rights back!

One law that Kansas has I hate is that I can not buy a gun there.  They have a short list of states you can live in and buy there, and I don't live in one.  I tell ya, when the family stuff gets old and I take a trip to the "store," it really irritates me when I come across a deal and can't do it!
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: TAB on May 18, 2008, 11:31:11 PM
Quote
* Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;

This varries from state to state... in many cases( like in CA, but other states as well)  if a Doctor thinks your a risk to yourself and others then can put you on a 3 day hold  5152 which means for the next 5 years you can not own a gun... or if 3 doctors think your a risk to self or others they can place a 3 day hold on you that is 5150... in that case your skrewed for life.


Recently my great uncle was placed on a 5150... now this guy is 87, on methadone for pain, has colon cancers, can't walk... I think you get the point.    Anyways colapsing, and spending 16 hours in a ER, in withdrawl from his methadone and in pain... he said " just let me die"  So he spent 3 days in the LA county mental health system...( which helped him alot I'm sure  ::) )   he is now prohibated from owning fire arms and the 2 he had are now in my safe since he can not pocess them.   

Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: CurrieS103 on May 19, 2008, 08:39:59 AM
        * Persons who have been declared by a court as mental defectives or have been committed to a mental institution;
 
I wonder if OB trips up as (if he becomes) President we can get the courts to take away his keys to the nukes?
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Outlaw on May 19, 2008, 01:55:55 PM
Wow! After looking at that list, how the hell did I ever get a CCW?   :-X
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: CurrieS103 on May 19, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
Because you are a good American Outlaw.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: DDMac on May 19, 2008, 04:07:52 PM
I wonder which is greater, the number of people who cannot possess guns, but do, or the number of foreigners who can't be here, but are?? Many would be double counts.
Mac.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: CurrieS103 on May 19, 2008, 04:56:50 PM
I doubt those questions will ever be on the census report
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Big Frank on May 29, 2008, 02:22:26 PM
Safe to say, that if Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama gets elected that this list will include a lot more folks. 

The list will be everyone who isn't active duty law enforcement or military. Period. End of list.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: DDMac on May 29, 2008, 03:28:47 PM
Not during my lifetime. >:(
Mac.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: Hazcat on May 29, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Not during my lifetime. >:(
Mac.

Mr. Heston delivered that line best, "From My Cold Dead Hands!"  Molon Labe!
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: DDMac on May 29, 2008, 03:59:26 PM
Yep! That's how it will be, but I think B-HO knows that. What he wants and what he gets are two different animals.

By the way, several of my local FFL hangouts report approximately 30% sales increase over last tax year. Local CCW classes have been over-booked for many months and private lesson requests are up too. The Sheriffs Office processing time here is pushing 90 days. Three years ago, it was 2 weeks.
Mac.
Title: Re: Who Cannot Have a Gun in America?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 30, 2008, 01:57:35 AM
Yep! That's how it will be, but I think B-HO knows that. What he wants and what he gets are two different animals.

By the way, several of my local FFL hangouts report approximately 30% sales increase over last tax year. Local CCW classes have been over-booked for many months and private lesson requests are up too. The Sheriffs Office processing time here is pushing 90 days. Three years ago, it was 2 weeks.
Mac.

Glad to hear the wait is because of demand.