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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: jaybet on July 29, 2013, 04:53:14 PM
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Here in the slave state of NJ where our masters tell us what Constitutionally guaranteed rights we can and cannot practice, and how much it will cost us, there is a small glimmer of warm light. I received this letter from my state Senator yesterday. I've met him several times and he has helped us twice with family matters. A good man.
“I know that in the past you have written to me and my Assembly colleagues, Sgt. Bob Andrzejczak and Nelson Albano, about your position on 2nd Amendment rights and expressing your concern about how we voted on the new pieces of anti-gun legislation that would further restrict law abiding gun owners.
Let me be clear: we voted ‘no’ on any and all bills that restreicted the rights of legal gun owners, and you can check this statement online!
I am a member of the NRA as well as the 2nd Amendment Society, as are Assemblymen Albano and Andrzejczak. We have kept our word and will continue to keep our work to you.
Again, thanks for contacting me and please do not hesitate to do so again at any time. In the meantime, Assemblymen Andrzejczak, Albano, and I wish you a safe and enjoyable summer season.
Sincerely,
Jeff Van Drew
Senator, 1st District”
The so-called Republicans? Meh.....
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Good for you. Party labels are just that. Its how they vote that matters. Support this guy.
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The only problem in voting for a Dummycrap (even one that is pro 2-A) is when push comes to shove, the s.o.b. will vote with his party to steal your money, your rights, and our nation.
In the end, there is no such thing as a good Dummycrap pol.
Crusader Rabbit
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The only problem in voting for a Dummycrap (even one that is pro 2-A) is when push comes to shove, the s.o.b. will vote with his party to steal your money, your rights, and our nation.
In the end, there is no such thing as a good Dummycrap pol.
Crusader Rabbit
Seconded!!!!!!!
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I knew someone would say that Alf, I just wasn't in the correct frame of mind to do it with any tact. Gun control is part of the Democrat platform, along with all the other infringements on out civil liberties. I admit Repubicans aren't perfect but that is our fault and we are responsible for who we elect so it time for some serious change that starts at the grassroots.
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In the end, there is no such thing as a good Dummycrap pol.
Crusader Rabbit
FIFY.
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The only problem in voting for a Dummycrap (even one that is pro 2-A) is when push comes to shove, the s.o.b. will vote with his party to steal your money, your rights, and our nation.
In the end, there is no such thing as a good Dummycrap pol.
Crusader Rabbit
The Rabbit is pretty correct for a Florida dwelling friend, but you must also consider that this is NJ. Best case scenario, a Republican around here means you get someone like Christi, or worse. ALL the pols here conspire against our money, our rights and our nation.
They are all EQUAL except on the issue of 2A, and I am proudly now a ONE ISSUE voter. If there's ever a choice between two pro-2A candidates, well then I"ll have to think a little I guess, but right now my choice is easy.
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The Rabbit is pretty correct for a Florida dwelling friend, but you must also consider that this is NJ. Best case scenario, a Republican around here means you get someone like Christi, or worse. ALL the pols here conspire against our money, our rights and our nation.
They are all EQUAL except on the issue of 2A, and I am proudly now a ONE ISSUE voter. If there's ever a choice between two pro-2A candidates, well then I"ll have to think a little I guess, but right now my choice is easy.
Truth!!!!
The Rep party wants to appeal to Independents and swing more conservative Dems to their side. They think the way to do it is to become more progressive, i.e.,Christi.
They don't get it that there's a hell of a lot of people who really have values and love liberty. The ones that aren't standing there with their hands out saying, "Where's my free shit?"
Unfortunately, there seems to be more numbers of freeloaders and not enough go-getters to vote this country back to it's original values.
We are watching this nation crumble under the weight of massive debt and can't do a damn thing about it.
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Jay, if you keep voting for Dems and RINO's you deserve what you've got .
Good for you. Party labels are just that. Its how they vote that matters. Support this guy.
FQ again proves he's a clueless tool.
Democrats have been the party of the "Mob" from the days they were lynching blacks right up to OWS and the current anti Zimmerman protests.
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Jay, if you keep voting for Dems and RINO's you deserve what you've got .
FQ again proves he's a clueless tool.
Democrats have been the party of the "Mob" from the days they were lynching blacks right up to OWS and the current anti Zimmerman protests.
And yet, Bloomberg was, and Christie IS a Republican. "nouf said. Who's the tool? The guy that recognizes that party label doesn't cover stupid, or the guy who thinks it does?
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Jay, if you keep voting for Dems and RINO's you deserve what you've got .
FQ again proves he's a clueless tool.
Democrats have been the party of the "Mob" from the days they were lynching blacks right up to OWS and the current anti Zimmerman protests.
Whatever you say Tom...I'm voting for the guy who belongs to the NRA and the NJ2AS and has consistently voted NO on gun control and has introduced legislation to improve the CCW situation. The republicans either WON'T SAY clearly what their position is on 2A (ala Christi) or they are outright in the gun grabber camp. Like I said, there are few good or clear choices in this shithole, but this is one of them.
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If you want a blueprint of how Democrats want you to live, and a foolproof plan to execute it, just look at Detroit. Chicago and California are next. Somewhere in that total clusterf*@k is plenty of gun control.
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??? Don't you guys have any Tea Party or Constitution Party candidates. At Least some liberal-tarians?
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None that can DO anything. They'll get 2% of the vote next time. These guys are IN OFFICE and fighting more stupid gun regulations. Sure it's a shame that they're coating is the wrong flavor, but they're doing what I need done so I'm ok with it.
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Whatever you say Tom...I'm voting for the guy who belongs to the NRA and the NJ2AS and has consistently voted NO on gun control and has introduced legislation to improve the CCW situation. The republicans either WON'T SAY clearly what their position is on 2A (ala Christi) or they are outright in the gun grabber camp. Like I said, there are few good or clear choices in this shithole, but this is one of them.
It does not matter whether or not they belong to the NRA.
You haven't learned anything from their "race" stances.
They deny you school vouchers because sending your kid to a private school is "racist", but then they send their kids, (Obama included) to mostly white private schools.
The Dem party platform calls for gun control, if you vote for one you deserve to get screwed.
And yet, Bloomberg was, and Christie IS a Republican. "nouf said. Who's the tool? The guy that recognizes that party label doesn't cover stupid, or the guy who thinks it does?
Dems have been the party of mob violence from the days of lynching blacks to the days of OWS and "Justice for Trayvon".
You need to replace your schooling with some actual learning.
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So you're saying vote for anyone no matter what they will try to pass or what they will vote for as far as denial of our rights, as long as they're not in the dumicrat column? ANYTHING is better than a democrat who is on our side on the Constitutional issues?
What else is there? State taxes? They all vote yes. Sales tax? They all vote yes. Restrictions on business? They all vote yes. "Special" taxes and compensatory fees charged to businesses? They all vote yes. More gun control? They all vote yes, EXCEPT for these guys.
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I'm more leery of "pro gun" Democrats. Remember Joe Manchin? He was the guy the NRA was raving about in the 2010 mid term elections. He even had a commercial during his campaign that showed him shooting a rifle at a pro Obama Care poster, or some such silliness.
He was one of the first guys to jump ship after the Newtown shootings, and immediately started screaming for more gun control, 5 minutes after the last shot was fired. He even tried to revive it after it was shot down in the Democratically controlled Senate. This is just one example of how you can easily get burned by trusting a socialist on gun control. It's like petting a rabid dog. You might get away with it......Until you lose your hand.
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....so I vote for a guy who....WILL DEFINITELY vote for gun control?
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....so I vote for a guy who....WILL DEFINITELY vote for gun control?
If you live in New Jersey or New York, you're screwed. I know, I was faced with much the same in Illinois. That's why I left. This country is going to divide into socialist and free states. You already have it. California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Mass., and several other are all but lost.
Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Texas, Alaska, Montana, and a few others remain free. I think you will see people moving to one or the other as this all progresses. It's not like there are any jobs left in these socialist strongholds anymore. Look at the unemployment rate in Michigan. Then look at the tax rate and cost of living. There simply is no reason to stay unless you're a government leech. And even they'll be screwed shortly.
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And yet, Bloomberg was, and Christie IS a Republican. "nouf said. Who's the tool? The guy that recognizes that party label doesn't cover stupid, or the guy who thinks it does?
It just goes to show you that many politicians have no problem lying about who they are to get elected. Bloomberg road Guliani's coat tails and Christie ran as an agent of change. Many people don't participate in Primaries where we can weed these RINOs out even then people like Bloomberg have enough money to fund multiple "disinformation" campaigns at any given time.
If you really, REALLY, want to get to the root of the problem with the US of A it is our preachers and churches that have acquiesced the very values and virtues their faith is based on in hopes of gaining more secular support. Look back at the Black Robe Regiment, there were preachers leading their parishioners into battle in the Revolution (IIRC the first skirmish)! Where is that kind of leadership or conviction today?
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Chris Christie is the biggest disaster to hit the Republican Party since John McCain.
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It just goes to show you that many politicians have no problem lying about who they are to get elected. Bloomberg road Guliani's coat tails and Christie ran as an agent of change. Many people don't participate in Primaries where we can weed these RINOs out even then people like Bloomberg have enough money to fund multiple "disinformation" campaigns at any given time.
If you really, REALLY, want to get to the root of the problem with the US of A it is our preachers and churches that have acquiesced the very values and virtues their faith is based on in hopes of gaining more secular support. Look back at the Black Robe Regiment, there were preachers leading their parishioners into battle in the Revolution (IIRC the first skirmish)! Where is that kind of leadership or conviction today?
They also are to lazy to actually do any research to find out if the candidate is telling the truth or just full of shit.
Kind of like liberal Dem Robert Byrd running on his "civil rights" record.
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I'm not telling anyone who to vote for in their own state. That's your business. But, here in MD where the Democrats have a monopoly on positions, we are living proof that it's not where a Democrat stands on any of your treasured interests but where he sits on key tools like redistricting after the census, appointments to various boards and commissions that control your life and pecking order. Pecking order is how long it takes a Democrat to respond to a Republican's concerns and the nebulous response he offers. Once the Democrats gain total control, as here in MD, you can forget freedom. Democrats in real power know how to control and get rid of Democrats who have been used to get that power. There are no longer any, I repeat ANY, checks and balances in this state. After all, this is the Free State which now means that the Democrats are free to do whatever they want. But, like the mouse that is about to be consumed by the swooping eagle, I give that final measure of defiance: I'll NEVER vote for any Democrat, EVER! I have lived their hell. So, if you want to be stupid, go right ahead...it's your right.
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This is what you get from Dems
(Frosty Wooldridge (born 1947) is a US journalist, writer, environmentalist, traveler)
DETROIT
By Frosty Wooldridge
For 15 years, from the mid 1970's to 1990, I worked in Detroit , Michigan . I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gunplay, drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs and human depravity. I watched entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on buildings, cars, trucks, buses and school yards. Trash everywhere!
Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it, and ignored it. Tens of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands today exist on federal welfare, free housing, and food stamps!
With Aid to Dependent Children, minority women birthed eight to 10, and in one case, one woman birthed 24 children as reported by the Detroit Free Press, all on American taxpayer dollars.
A new child meant a new car payment, new TV, and whatever mom wanted. I saw Lyndon Baines Johnson's 'Great Society' flourish in Detroit . If you give money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out taking money for doing nothing.
Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America , outside of Richard Daley in Chicago , rode Detroit down to its knees... He set the benchmark for cronyism, incompetence, and arrogance. As a black man, he said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant "in charge". You can figure out the rest.Â
Detroit became a majority black city with 67 percent African-Americans.
As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching math and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van for a new life in another city or state.
Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At the same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city for the free government handouts, so much so, that Muslims number over 300,000. Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan, but most work in Detroit . As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in.
As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally, unlawful Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much shoplifting that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city locations. You could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife! Detroit may be one of our best examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike, and total separation from America ..
Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new American Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan , paid for by Saudi Arabian oil money. High school flunk-out rates reached 76 percent last June, according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more foreign countries than America .. English? Few speak it! The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing.
Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry vacated the city. In‚ Time‚ Magazine on October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit : How a great city fell, and how it can rise again," I choked on the writer's description of what happened. "If Detroit had been ravaged by a hurricane, and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it," said Daniel Okrent. "If drought and carelessness had spread brush fires across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night." Earthquake, tornadoes, you name it, if natural disaster had devastated the city that was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the country might take notice.
But Detroit , once our fourth largest city, now 11th and slipping rapidly, has had no such luck. Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove it from the rest of the country.
Even the death rattle that in the past year emanated from its signature industry brought more attention to the auto executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."
As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no amount of federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kickbacks and illegality permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from the seat of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of every sector of decaying Detroit .
"By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support. Detroit 's treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the barest municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six years ago was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's offer of $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools, is in receivership. The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three years after Katrina devastated New Orleans , unemployment in that city hit a peak of 11%. In Detroit today, the unemployment rate is 28.9%. That's worth spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent.
At the end of Okrent's report, and he will write a dozen more about Detroit, he said, "That's because the story of Detroit is not simply one of a great city's collapse, it's also about the erosion of the industries that helped build the country we know today. The ultimate fate of Detroit will reveal much about the character of America in the 21st century.
If what was once the most prosperous manufacturing city in the nation has been brought to its knees, what does that say about our recent past? And if it can't find a way to get up, what does that say about Americas future?"
As you read in my book review of Chris Steiner's book,"$20 Per Gallon", the auto industry won't come back. Immigration will keep pouring more and more uneducated third world immigrants from the Middle East into Detroit , thus creating a beachhead for Islamic hegemony in America . If 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more home-grown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit . Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs.
You have already seen it in Madrid , Spain , London , England , and Paris , France with train bombings, subway bombings and riots. As their numbers grow, so will their power to enact their barbaric Sharia Law that negates republican forms of government, first amendment rights, and subjugates women to the lowest rungs on the human ladder. We will see more honor killings by upset husbands, fathers and brothers that demand subjugation by their daughters, sisters and wives. Muslims prefer beheadings of women to scare the hell out of any other members of their sect from straying. Multiculturalism: what a perfect method to kill our language, culture, country and way of life.
I PRAY EVERYONE WHO READS THIS REALIZES THAT IF WE DON'T STAND UP AND SCREAM AT WASHINGTON , AND OUR STATE, CITY AND LOCAL LEADERS, THIS IS WHAT AWAITS THE REST OF AMERICA . IF YOU THINK MEXICANS AND MUSLIMS AND OTHER FORIEGNERS WILL EVENTUALLY FIT RIGHT IN THEN YOU ARE AS BIG A PART OF THE PROBLEM AS THEY ARE.
IF YOU THINK THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF HOOEY AND YOU FEEL NO DUTY TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY, THEN I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO STAND AND FIGHT ?
IF YOU LOVE AMERICA , PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG.
P.S. Detroit has been run by the Democrats for the past 40 years!
PPS, Didn't Camden NJ do away with it's police dept last year because the union made it to expensive to maintain an effective force ?
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Only one correction. Detroit has not seen a Republican in power since 1961. That's 52 years, not 40.
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Your right, I should have caught that since it was the year after I was born.