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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Roy Hill on May 31, 2008, 09:47:15 PM
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Anyone remember what else Michael Pflueger has said, besides his kooky ranting about Hillary in Obama's recently former church?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Here's a link and the key excerpt so you can walk down memory lane a bit.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/b...XL01FLGtsnJ6tn
In another demonstration at Chuck’s Gun Shop, owned by John Riggio, Rev. Pfleger told the crowd: "We’re going to find you and snuff you out....Like a rat you’re going to hide. But like a rat, we’re going to catch you and pull you out....We’re going to snuff out John Riggio." Rev. Pfleger also promised: "We’re going to snuff out legislators that are voting against our gun laws. We’re coming for you because we’re not going to sit idly."
Rev. Pfleger later denied that his words had been meant to invoke violence, or that he had known that "snuff out" means to "kill." Rather, the determination to "snuff out" Riggio was a determination to find out his home address, which was not publicly available.
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Anyone remember what else Michael Pflueger has said, besides his kooky ranting about Hillary in Obama's recently former church?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Here's a link and the key excerpt so you can walk down memory lane a bit.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/b...XL01FLGtsnJ6tn
In another demonstration at Chuck’s Gun Shop, owned by John Riggio, Rev. Pfleger told the crowd: "We’re going to find you and snuff you out....Like a rat you’re going to hide. But like a rat, we’re going to catch you and pull you out....We’re going to snuff out John Riggio." Rev. Pfleger also promised: "We’re going to snuff out legislators that are voting against our gun laws. We’re coming for you because we’re not going to sit idly."
Rev. Pfleger later denied that his words had been meant to invoke violence, or that he had known that "snuff out" means to "kill." Rather, the determination to "snuff out" Riggio was a determination to find out his home address, which was not publicly available.
Being from the Chicago area, I have seen Pfleger before, and he is and has been a complete whack job for a long, long time. Poor boy, born white and in his heart of hearts, he just knows he should have been a poor, impoverished, downtrodden, oppressed black man. So he just pretends he is.
Personally, I think he needs a good shrink.
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Roy, Don't you mean Obama's NEW ranting preacher.
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Please tell me why the chuch has not defrocked this wacko?
I have recently been thinking that it is past time to start taxing churches. They all are way into politics so they ought to 'pay to play'.
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Nope BO old minister since he resigned/quit the church! Too little too late.
Richard
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The Cardinal running Chicago needs to fire or defrock Pflueger as Hazcat said. He lets his ego take over and calls it the Lord's work. Of the many whacky things he says, he embraces "Black Liberation Theology" which is something that Pope John Paul said was not Christian.
Obama is Pflueger's pimp and mackdaddy. Barack Obama in his tenure in the state legislature had earmarked $200,000 to Pflueger's church.
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To paraphrase Henry II: "who will rid Obama of these meddlesome priests?"
;D
He's trying to distance himself further now, but it remains a testament to Obama's mindset and character that for nearly 20 years he found the comments and rantings of Pflueger and Wright not so "appalling" that it prevented his being baptised there along with his family.
Amazing how he only had the rose-colored glasses lifted once he hit the national campaign trail, isn't it? I've heard of having revelations about life and politics and such in church, but it's a new one on me for a man to get his revelations about church while on the political stump!
It's a rock-solid indicator of where his sense of self and his perception of the world springs from, and a dead giveaway of what the man really believes when he is not giving airy speeches to drooling throngs of acolytes. I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear what he really thinks when it's just him and Michelle talking.
It reinforces what the candid "Bitter" comments showed us; this guy is a real wacko, but so polished to be truly dangerous - even palatable and desirable to a large number of people across the country - unlike his good reverends.
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Hi Boys and girls! Can you say, "Anti-christ"?
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Posted by: jaybethel
Hi Boys and girls! Can you say, "Anti-christ"?
A handful of people I know including my mom swear he is the anti-christ! Well spoken, from Muslim decent ...
When she asked me what I think, I had to tell her that what first came to my mind to describe him was another "A" word.
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My favorite was B-HO stating that he doesn't plan to denounce his former church, becuase "THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG TO DENOUNCE." If they haven't done anything wrong, they why leave?
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UPDATE:
New Pflueger America hating video...... "America is the greatest sin against God":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yvCPp03TWg
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The million dollar question to Obama is why now ... after 20 years ... do you find this rhetoric offensive? Obama's problem is that he puts on an empty suit and tries to define political correctness.
I don’t know why the Catholic Church puts up with this guy. He embraces “black liberation theology” … something their last Pope said was something like “Marxism disguised as Christianity” and preaches hate. This is not the message of Jesus Christ. They should fire him. Yeah, I know he is a single father (he adopted a couple of boys) but life’s tough when you make a living hating.
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The million dollar question to Obama is why now ... after 20 years ... do you find this rhetoric offensive? Obama's problem is that he puts on an empty suit and tries to define political correctness.
I don’t know why the Catholic Church puts up with this guy. He embraces “black liberation theology” … something their last Pope said was something like “Marxism disguised as Christianity” and preaches hate. This is not the message of Jesus Christ. They should fire him. Yeah, I know he is a single father (he adopted a couple of boys) but life’s tough when you make a living hating.
A: Because it is in the best interest of his career.
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At this point...
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Update: Michael Pflueger explains his comments this way:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/983975,CST-NWS-fals03.article
He didn’t think the service and his “conversation” — a more casual address than a classic sermon, he explained — were being broadcast live online, as Trinity often does.
“They told me it was down,” Pfleger said. “Their live streaming had been down all day, and they didn’t know whether it was back up. . . . I regret the dramatization that I was naive enough to believe was just going to be kept among that church.”
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He didn’t think the service and his “conversation” — a more casual address than a classic sermon, he explained — were being broadcast live online, as Trinity often does.
“They told me it was down,” Pfleger said. “Their live streaming had been down all day, and they didn’t know whether it was back up. . . . I regret the dramatization that I was naive enough to believe was just going to be kept among that church.”
Translation:
It's OK to incite the locals to hate whitey and America, I just didn't want everyone else to know I am a racist, socialist, whack job.
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Translation:
It's OK to incite the locals to hate whitey and America, I just didn't want everyone else to know I am a racist, socialist, whack job.
Yep!
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He strokes his ego as he preaches hate. It is a real shame that the message of love that Jesus Christ has is lost in the translation of this verbal masturbation.
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I just wrote Michael Pfleger at St. Sabinas (saintsabina.org) a note. From what his "apology" at their web site stated, he has received tons of death threats and ... imagine this ... called a raciest and a sexist.
Thanks for the apology.
I still don't understand why you preach hate instead of His Word? Your ego and willingness to placate people with your verbal masturbation is not Christian.
Didn’t you have just the slightest light go on when you wrote that sermon (and others) that what you were saying … whether it was recorded or not … was wrong?
Again, it appears that it’s either your ego, ignorance of faith or combination of both that binds you to the same punch line.
All the same, you are in my prayers.
Ron Johnson
Bottom line, if any person in the business world said what he said, they would be fired.
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I just wrote Michael Pfleger at St. Sabinas (saintsabina.org) a note. From what his "apology" at their web site stated, he has received tons of death threats and ... imagine this ... called a raciest and a sexist.
Thanks for the apology.
I still don't understand why you preach hate instead of His Word? Your ego and willingness to placate people with your verbal masturbation is not Christian.
Didn’t you have just the slightest light go on when you wrote that sermon (and others) that what you were saying … whether it was recorded or not … was wrong?
Again, it appears that it’s either your ego, ignorance of faith or combination of both that binds you to the same punch line.
All the same, you are in my prayers.
Ron Johnson
Bottom line, if any person in the business world said what he said, they would be fired.
Just saw on Yahoo news, The Bishop told him to take some time out, I mean off ;D But it was for saying Hillery felt she was "entitled" to the nomination