Why are they doing that ????
Because their FUDDS not shooters.
So, what about crows, rats, coyotes and other vermin? I think it is ok to shoot them and not eat them. It can also be great fun and is hunting.
• 43% define themselves as primarily hunting
• 43% define themselves as primarily shooters
• 14% do both
Okay, rant mode off...remember, my job is to be strident, because so many in our culture aren't.
Michael B
So, what about crows, rats, coyotes and other vermin? I think it is ok to shoot them and not eat them. It can also be great fun and is hunting.
Rant away MB, You get your facts and say what you beleive without BS. It's why we support you and your shows.
Got to admit, despite what I've said in some of the threads, the more I hear about Obama the better McCain looks.
Is there anybody here who doesn't believe that an Obama as President with a huge majority Democratic House and Senate won't do exactly what he says he will do and ram through a new — and permanent — AWB? Ammo controls like microstamping? "Smart gun" initiatives and restrictions on "unsafe" guns? Closing public lands to shooting? Lots and lots of "reasonable" gun laws...
Michael B
I'll voice my opinion as well now. I used to hunt, but I saw so little game that I gave it up. I'd rather see the animals than carry them out of the woods (kind of lazy as well ;D ) .........
14 % do both
14 % huh? Fudds to the left of me, "tacticians" to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle again!!!
14 % huh? Fudds to the left of me, "tacticians" to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle again!!!
I like to pull the trigger a lot when I go to the range and practice my drills and then get down to some serious 200+ yard target hitting with my .44 Super Redhawk and then I usually go to my AR for farther distance so I can stay sharp for the coyotes. then I go to the Ruger MkII for a fun session so I can keep blasting those pesky red squirrels. Come fall ( the way prices are ) I go out and get a deer or two to tide my family over . I would also like to take the time to thank MB for all he is doing for us shoots and our sports no matter what they be.. Tom this was a damm good post.
Thanks Marshall, I didn't know the stats on Norway, glad to see they didn't go the UK or mainland European "Disarm the populus" way.
Plus, really,really really, cold winters, need good elk and reindeer steaks! ;D
Thanks, Let's all remember that not only do shooters and hunters need to work together to protect our gun rights but if we lose, we need the hunters to help us shooters with our stalking techniques. ;DOh I got that down pat . 1st you throw smoke, when they hunker down and see its just smoke they come out, then you drop white phosphorous on them and when they drop to the ground writhing in pain you hit em with the HE. Oh !! Wrong technique ::)
Oh I got that down pat . 1st you throw smoke, when they hunker down and see its just smoke they come out, then you drop white phosphorous on them and when they drop to the ground writhing in pain you hit em with the HE. Oh !! Wrong technique ::)
Marshal, 600 meter INDOOR range, SWEET ! Norway probably still has enough people who remember the German occupation and the Cold war to keep alive the idea of "Home guard". America, insulated by 2 oceans has not been reminded of that need in the last 65 years. We forget that the primary reason the Japanese never considered landings on the mainland was the proliferation of private fire arms. You have much usefull experiance to share if we can get the darn Sheeple to listen.
It is an outdoor range. Some of the military ranges are open to civilian use in the winter time. Deep snow doesn't stop a Norwegian from shootin'.
Most indoor ranges (I believe the number is close to 800) are max 25 meters, a few have 50 meters.
And you're right. The Home Guard after WWII has been a major influence for the shooting sports in Norway and still is.
In the 1930s defense was cut down to almost nothing but they sure learned a lesson when Hitler did the unthinkable.
The game population is down, so hunting (like we used to do ) is on the downside
Are you NAVY ? Let me clue you in, what works well with a 16 inch NAVAL rifle isn't quite as effective with any thing less than 40mm ;DNo Tom 155 howitzer, works great when their dug in. ;D
No Tom 155 howitzer, works great when their dug in. ;D
But I was actually referring to birds.. like quail..and prairie chicken is about nil. .. and our rabbit population is very low. ( cause the KF&G put a protection on the stupid hawks..) soooo we have a hawk on every fence post and the rabbit and quail have been their food source.
( DON'T get me started on the Fish and Game..) >:(
We have plenty of deer and squirrel and our dove hunt is wonderful . But the other critters are hurting in their numbers.
..............But I was actually referring to birds.. like quail..and prairie chicken is about nil. .. and our rabbit population is very low. ( cause the KF&G put a protection on the stupid hawks..) soooo we have a hawk on every fence post and the rabbit and quail have been their food source. ..........
No Tom 155 howitzer, works great when their dug in. ;D
I can't remember the last time I actually hunted even though I always buy a small game license.
I've never been to any type of organized shooting event. But I buy ammo by the case full.
I like to shoot my guns just because I find it enjoyable. I like to customize them too. It's fun.
A lot more about this topic on Down Range Radio #62 airing from around 11:00 PM Eastern.
But I think that is because we are so small a community and don't have any ranges ( our ranges are our back yards, cause most live in the country) so maybe that is why hunters that don't shoot at ranges or shoot competitively do not consider themselves to be shooters, and only hunters..when in fact if you are hunting you hopefully are shooting..so they have to be a shooter to be a hunter ..but they don't have to be a hunter to be a shooter.
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(My gosh.. did I really say all of that without taking a breath?) :o and did anyone actually understand a damned word I said?
"how this AK will do on Boar or deer?"
To very loosely quote Shakespeare's Juliet ...
O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a gun
By any other name would shoot as sweet;
So Kalashnikov would, were he not Kalashnikov call'd,
Retain that deer perfection which he owes
Without that title. Kalashnikov, doff thy name,
And for that name which is now part of thee
Take to the range.
Now that I've had some sleep let me try this again ;D The people I classed as Hunters are the ones who want to make the "Kill" regardless of Weapon, Shooters are those who want to make the "Shot" regardless of target.
When I was in the Guard 89-92 I was Unit Armorer (76Y) for A Btry 3rd/197th FA, We had M-198'sShot em all the 155 the 8" and 102, loved to ride my 155, those were the long tubes rollin over Sadams boys. Read 'Into the Storm" great book .
The (Then) new 155's that you did not have to dig breech pits for ;D
But being a Marine first (and always) I did not think of HOWitzer till after I posted ::)
Now that I've had some sleep let me try this again ;D The people I classed as Hunters are the ones who want to make the "Kill" regardless of Weapon, Shooters are those who want to make the "Shot" regardless of target.That is a very good way of putting it.
I'll try to get my demagraphics right.
I shoot rifle more then I shoot pistol or shotgun. Pistol shooting is close second to rifle. Shotgun is distant third. I've hunted with my shotgun and enjoyed it! But I don't hunt with my rifle, just target shoot.(NRA Highpower) I don't plink with a pistol, (just combat) but no bulleye target. I have shot bullseye, but combat is more fun. I've shot trap and tought it for the local club to jr's but I don't call myself a shotgunner. I 'm the president of the local club , but I still have a home and job to run.
So, what demagraphic do I belong to ? :-\
Shot em all the 155 the 8" and 102, loved to ride my 155, those were the long tubes rollin over Sadams boys. Read 'Into the Storm" great book .
Read it. I take it you were SP. We were towed. We don't care what the music is, as long as it's LOUD ;D