Hunters Vs. Shooters

[Marshal Halloway]

A lot more about this topic on Down Range Radio #62 airing from around 11:00 PM Eastern.

[wisconsin]

I see more deer in my neck of the woods driving home at night from work, than I do when I go hunting Its getting to the point that if a moth passes by the window it scares    the s**t out of me. And believe it or not I see more deer,turkey at my clubs range when I'm shooting than out in the woods. I'm begining to think I'm doing something wrong  Or maybe I should just quit hunting all together and shoot more than just once a week.

[Teresa Heilevang]

oh yea.. we have lots of turkey too. and let me tell you.. they can flat "carry the mail"..
I was on the 4 wheeler the other evening and riding through the pasture and there he was.. strutting around and going in a direction parallel to me.. I kind of hit the gas and tried to outrun him.. but he kept right beside me and then took off and flew and man alive.. could he fly with some speed!

How he made it through the trees without crashing into them is beyond me.. but he did.

Ok.. that's all I wanted to say... Just reminded me of it when I read that thread..
bye.. 

[Hazcat]

A lot more about this topic on Down Range Radio #62 airing from around 11:00 PM Eastern.

Hey Marshal. yer YELLOW...........









shirt in the new avatar looks good.  

[CJS3]

I've been reading the replies for the last couple of days, and the only question I have is, how can you be a hunter without being a shooter first? They kind of go hand in hand, which is why I chose both in the poll. Does it make me any less of a shooter if I don't have more than one AR? How about if I have more than one 30-30? Am I not a hunter because I collect Colts? Did I break the rules because I shot a hog with an AK (it was a damn good shot too)? I'm a gun owner first, then a hunter or shooter ( or shooter or hunter ). These catagories are your limitations, not mine. Any current or proposed gun laws affect me, because I am a Gun Owner first.

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[Teresa Heilevang]

I agree with you.
Around my parts here, we don;'t have many shooters. In fact I would say that 95% are hunters ..and don''t consider themselves shooters.
 But I think that is because we are so small a community and don't have any ranges ( our ranges are our  back yards, cause most live in the country)  so maybe that is why hunters that don't shoot at ranges or shoot competitively do not consider themselves to be shooters, and only hunters..when in fact if you are hunting you hopefully are shooting..so they have to be a shooter to be a hunter ..but they don't have to be a hunter to be a shooter.
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(My gosh.. did I really say all of that without taking a breath?)  and did anyone actually understand a damned word I said?

We call people that do not set in a stand or a turkey blind "shooters" cause they just drive around and when they see game they jump out and shoot at it. That to me is NOT hunting.
But I do think that hunting is not as prevailant as it was..say 10 years ago.. Lots of changes have put the kinks to it.
 I do think that shooting for fun and competitively is becoming more popular than ever before. 

[Marshal Halloway]

But I think that is because we are so small a community and don't have any ranges ( our ranges are our  back yards, cause most live in the country)  so maybe that is why hunters that don't shoot at ranges or shoot competitively do not consider themselves to be shooters, and only hunters..when in fact if you are hunting you hopefully are shooting..so they have to be a shooter to be a hunter ..but they don't have to be a hunter to be a shooter.
 ..................................
(My gosh.. did I really say all of that without taking a breath?)  and did anyone actually understand a damned word I said?

Wow, that sounds exactly like Festus Hagen talking to Doc Adams in Gunsmoke. Maybe I should call you Festus'ette... 

Seriously, in these neck of the woods, there is no categorized gun culture. It is "the" culture, period. Reason is that guns here are looked at as tools. Besides from skeet and trap, there are no environment for competitive shooting. Recreational shooting, yes, but as a part of a social gathering on private property. I don't think the majority here consider themselves either a hunter or a shooter. If you ask someone that question, most of them would look at you and say huh??

[Marshal Halloway]

Btw,

Here's Michael's more detailed take on this topic:
http://www.downrange.tv/radio/63.htm

[tombogan03884]

The people I was thinking of as "Hunters" are the ones who put their rifle (Or what ever) in the same catagory as their calls,scents etc. Hunting gear. The ones I think of as shooters are the ones who get a gun they want and then decide if or where they can apply it besides the range, as in gee, I wander how this AK will do on Boar or deer?

[Ron J]

"how this AK will do on Boar or deer?"

To very loosely quote Shakespeare's Juliet ...

O, be some other name!
      What's in a name? that which we call a gun
      By any other name would shoot as sweet;
      So Kalashnikov would, were he not Kalashnikov call'd,
      Retain that deer perfection which he owes
      Without that title. Kalashnikov, doff thy name,
      And for that name which is now part of thee
      Take to the range.