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Title: Going Green
Post by: alfsauve on June 06, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
I've actually experimented over the years with various electrical vehicles, seeing as how electronics is my hobby, but this was a big jump.

I'm now a Nissan LEAF owner.  All electric.

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Well, yes there are two of them in the picture.  One belongs to my youngest son.

Okay, it's not that I've gone over to PETA or Greenpeace or anything.

In Georgia, there is a $5,000 rebate for buying (OR LEASING) an all electric vehicle.  So I did the math:

$270/mo lease minus the $209/mo state rebate ($5,000/24mo) means I'm paying only $61/mo.  I'm saving somewhere around $100/mo in gas.  THE CAR IS MAKING ME MONEY.   It's fun to drive.  Has lots of pep and pickup.   I've not seen any real change in my electric bill.  And the more I drive the more money I'm making.  My son, btw, is saving around $150/mo because he has a much longer daily commute.

Besides saving money, I don't have to replace my aging PU which I use once or twice a month now to go to Home Depot.  No oil changes.  No emission inspection.    At the end of 2 years I turn it in so I don't have to deal with decaying battery replacement.

[To relate it to shooting:] My shooting bags fit quite nicely in the back compartment.  And the more I save on gas the more I can spend on ammo.

 
Oh there was this little incident last week, here in Atlanta.

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CALM DOWN:  It wasn't my Leaf, though it's identical to mine.  Driver survived.  I guess the tree took exception to the "leaf".
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: Solus on June 06, 2014, 06:45:27 PM
well, Nothing is free.

you are saving the money, but somebody's taxes are going to give you that savings...

Not that is isn't a smart thing to do...you not gonna beat this system in two years, so might as well join them while it pays.

Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: brushmore on June 06, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
I bought a new car recently and I went green as well.  A "Gotta Have it Green" Mustang GT.  ;D

Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 07, 2014, 08:28:45 AM
Hey Alf, have you tried using your new leaf to take a rifle to the range ?  ;D
Might fit an AR in it, but not a longer barreled rifle or shotgun .
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: Solus on June 07, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
Alf...

Just wondering.  Was that a rebate or a tax credit?
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: kmitch200 on June 08, 2014, 09:38:58 PM
Alf, what's the range on a full charge?

A coworker was looking at the early electric cars but they couldn't get him to work and back home so he drove a little shitbox mileage master.  ;) 
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: alfsauve on June 09, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
Sorry, been off line a couple of days.

Full charge says 90miles, but after you turn on the a/c and run for a while I'd say 70 is more realistic.  The computer is guessing based on the consumption at any given time.  More hills, more acceleration, more accessories, the millage drops.

Have a friend who takes her's from ATL to Huntsville.  Stops at 2 dealers on the way to recharge.  Definitely not a car you take on a trip. 

The rebate is a TAX Credit. The amount you get back is limited to your GA Income Tax.  It does roll over for 5 years though.  Low/no income people of course, can't use it and retired folks might take a couple of years to get everything back.

I carried an 8' uni-strut from HD to work the other day.  Granted, my rifle cases aren't going crosswise in the car, but then I can fold down the rear seats.
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 10, 2014, 08:34:07 AM


I carried an 8' uni-strut from HD to work the other day.  Granted, my rifle cases aren't going crosswise in the car, but then I can fold down the rear seats.


Wow, I didn't think the whole car was that long .     ;D

Just ran across this.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/More-Smart-Cars-Tipped-in-Overnight-Pranks-in-San-Franciscos-Twin-Peaks-Cole-Valley-262200691.html

More Smart Cars Tipped in Overnight Pranks in San Francisco's Twin Peaks, Cole Valley

Two more Smart cars were tipped overnight in San Francisco's Twin Peaks and Cole Valley neighborhoods, according to police.

    Photos: Smart Cars Flipped Over in San Francisco

The latest tippings of the small two-seat cars were reported at 3:41 a.m. at Clayton Street and Parnassus Avenue and at 5:38 a.m. in the 1300 block of Clayton Street, near 17th Street, according to police.

These incident follow a series of tippings reported about two months ago.

Three Smart cars were tipped early one morning in April within a 10-block radius near Bernal Heights.

The prank is considered felony vandalism, according to police.

The cars were first made by German auto manufacturer Smart Automobile in the late 1990s.

The tipping prank is fairly common because the roughly 1,600-pound cars are more easily tipped onto their sides, roofs or ends than other vehicles.
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: Solus on June 10, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
Sorry, been off line a couple of days.

Full charge says 90miles, but after you turn on the a/c and run for a while I'd say 70 is more realistic.  The computer is guessing based on the consumption at any given time.  More hills, more acceleration, more accessories, the millage drops.

Have a friend who takes her's from ATL to Huntsville.  Stops at 2 dealers on the way to recharge.  Definitely not a car you take on a trip. 

The rebate is a TAX Credit. The amount you get back is limited to your GA Income Tax.  It does roll over for 5 years though.  Low/no income people of course, can't use it and retired folks might take a couple of years to get everything back.

I carried an 8' uni-strut from HD to work the other day.  Granted, my rifle cases aren't going crosswise in the car, but then I can fold down the rear seats.

So it IS your money. Any thing you can get back from the TAXMAN is fair game.

When someone asked me if I didn't feel bad being so aggressive working to get every cent I could off my tax bill I told them.

If you came home and found a pickup truck with 25% if your belongings in it, just how bad would you feel grabbing your TV set out of it as it pulled away from the curb?
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: philw on June 10, 2014, 10:42:34 PM


More Smart Cars Tipped in Overnight Pranks in San Francisco's Twin Peaks, Cole Valley

Two more Smart cars were tipped overnight in San Francisco's Twin Peaks and Cole Valley neighborhoods, according to police.


ahh car tipping  the modern day Cow Tipping
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Alf,   how long dose it take to charge? 

not for me with the K's we drive about here,  if we need short distances  and i am able to  I tent to try and ride or walk



this is our next car,   

(http://img2.netcarshow.com/Holden-VF_Commodore_SSV_Redline_2014_1024x768_wallpaper_01.jpg)
(http://img2.netcarshow.com/Holden-VF_Commodore_SSV_Redline_2014_1024x768_wallpaper_18.jpg)
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: Solus on June 11, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
Back when I was in High School, there was the Izetta.

The front of this 2 seater swung open like a door for entry.

Five or six of us thought a neat prank would be to pick one up and set it down with it's fron bumper against a tree, which we did.

As we stepped back to admire our work, we noticed the owner standing in his driveway with a pistol in his hand. 

"Funny boys", he said. "Now put it back", which we did.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta




Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: philw on June 11, 2014, 08:36:17 AM
hehe  the year 12's at my school   ( last year ) 

moved one of the teachers mini moke's  between 2 trees  for fun  hehe
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 11, 2014, 08:40:34 AM
When I was in vocational school one of the teachers had some kind of mini car.
After a basketball game one night a bunch of us set it between 2 columns in the school doorway.
Took him an hour of backing and filling to get it out.  ;D

Here's something though.
Several of us have admited to similar stunts, but none of them involved actual damage like rolling them over.
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: alfsauve on June 11, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
Charging:   The standard 120v trickle charger takes upwards of 12+ hours.  I bought a 240V charger separate (I do my own wiring at the house), that takes something less than 3.5 - 4 hours.     But charging is a diminishing returns activity so really after about 3hrs it's mostly charged.

Dealers have the super charging stations that can charge it in even less time.

Just FYI:  240Vac chargers run $486 locally.    I dug around on the net and found a company in CA, that has hacked the charger and it actually works on dual voltage.    I have a plug adapter and I can plug in either to 240Vac or 120Vac.      You can do a trade-in for less than $300 from them.  Send your 120Vac charger and they send you the hacked 240/120 version.   And no, the dealer doesn't care if you turn in the hacked charger.  According to the CA company, used Leaf's just go straight from the dealer, when you turn them in, to the wholesale auction lot, where they're being bought by an export company and being shipped to Scandinavia.  They don't care about the stock, US charger.
Title: Re: Going Green
Post by: Timothy on June 11, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
Our wrestling coach back in the 70's had a VW Beetle that got turned 90° in his parking spot about once a week during the wrestling season.  He's have to wait till the other teachers moved their cars!  He got used to it happening but eventually swapped spots with another coach for an end spot in the lot...

I plead the 5th...