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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: billt on October 07, 2016, 05:25:57 AM
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They're scanning license plates in the parking lot. Might be a good idea to start parking several blocks down.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/feds-use-local-police-to-collect-license-plate-info-at-gun-shows/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20161007_FridayDigest_90&utm_campaign=/blog/feds-use-local-police-to-collect-license-plate-info-at-gun-shows/
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Or take a cab.
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CA was famous for going to the nv shows and then stoping ca drivers at the ag control stations... worked until they got their ass sued ( and lost)
when I got to gun shows its almost always in a rental car anyways. since I normally do it while traveling.
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Not that I like being noticed, but this is the type of profiling that catches bad guys. Law enforcement has attended gun shows for years, and they catch bad guys doing it.
Can you show that this is building a data base, or is it just scanning for criminals like they do when they come up behind you on the road?
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They also catch collectors that are going to gun show to legally buy fire arms. More then a few states have been cuaght sending leos across state lines.
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Here in Phoenix, at the big Crossroads Of The West shows at the Arizona Fairgrounds, you see a lot of California plates on cars in the parking lot. Most are here to buy Hi-Cap magazines, (30 round AR and AK mags, & 17 and 33 round Glock magazines, to take back to the Communist state. I have yet to hear of anyone doing time on a magazine bust.
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New york got in trouble for it. After that it stopped.
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Here in Phoenix, at the big Crossroads Of The West shows at the Arizona Fairgrounds, you see a lot of California plates on cars in the parking lot. Most are here to buy Hi-Cap magazines, (30 round AR and AK mags, & 17 and 33 round Glock magazines, to take back to the Communist state. I have yet to hear of anyone doing time on a magazine bust.
Of the mags you mention all but one are standard capacity. You're using the gun-banners terminology calling them high capacity. I don't know if you're aware you did that.
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its also not illegal unless you import them to ca... you use to also take them apart and were fine( as long as you did not put them back together in the state)
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Mass used to send State cops to watch fireworks stores in Seabrook NH until NH cops started arresting them.
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Mass used to send State cops to watch fireworks stores in Seabrook NH until NH cops started arresting them.
I bet that was a good show. I hope they spent a lot of time in the jail and had to wait on attorneys to cross the border to get them out.
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Yup LOL
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It's pretty much truth that although Whitey Bulger is a murderous asshole, the hierarchy of the MA State Policia aren't too far off that mark! The corruption in that department is legendary...
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If you're stupid enough to break the law and not smart enough to hide it, you deserve getting caught. It is like going around weigh stations. There are only so many reasons to jump them, and most are illegal. This is why you see the chasers on the back roads.
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Of the mags you mention all but one are standard capacity. You're using the gun-banners terminology calling them high capacity. I don't know if you're aware you did that.
OK, higher capacity. Grinding water. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Is the glass half empty, or half full?
Straight from the Sig Sauer website:
"The pistol comes with four (4) 20 round super capacity magazines so it’s ready to see action."
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-tacops.aspx
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At some point we need to accept that our use of proper terminology will be spun negative. The key is that we need to quit canibalizing ourselves for using correct, but negatively spun, terms and phrases.
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At some point we need to accept that our use of proper terminology will be spun negative. The key is that we need to quit canibalizing ourselves for using correct, but negatively spun, terms and phrases.
I agree. The problem becomes what exactly is, "Standard Capacity", or "High Capacity", if a gun company determines 20 rounds to be, "Super Capacity"? It all becomes a silly play on words. Nothing more.
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Some terms are easy: Clip vs. Magazine. However, others are more subjaective: A 10 round 1911 magazine is high capacity, a 16 round Glock is standard, and a 10 round M&P is a low or limited capacity. We need to just become comfortable with industry and manufacturer terminology and use it. Like talking sex with your kids: Use the proper terms, don't cringe, don't giggle or smirk, and don't act ashamed.
No matter what we say or how we say it, our words will be spun. If we stick to the accepted anyone can defend against their spin.
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We need to just become comfortable with industry and manufacturer terminology and use it.
Many times that becomes impossible. For example, (and this emphasizes the silliness of all of this), If a manufacturer, (In this case Sig), determines a, "Standard Capacity" Sig P-226 magazine is 15 rounds. And a "Super Capacity" magazine for the same gun is 20 rounds. What does that make a 33 round Glock magazine??.... "Ultra Super Capacity", or "Standard Capacity + 16"?......... Unless you put it into a Glock 26. You can go on like this forever, much like you can with political correctness. And it becomes every bit as stupid.
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To further emphasize this foolishness, Sig manufacturers the P-226 SCT, (Super Capacity Tactical). It ships with 4, 20 round magazines....... Unless you buy the .40 S&W version, which ships with 4, 15 round magazines.
So......According to Sig, "Super Capacity" is determined to be 20 rounds in 9 MM, but only 15 rounds in .40 S&W in the same gun.
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-sct.aspx
Now... Throw all of that out the window when you buy a Glock.
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It's pretty much truth that although Whitey Bulger is a murderous asshole, the hierarchy of the MA State Policia aren't too far off that mark! The corruption in that department is legendary...
Whitey was the honest Bulger, the rest all worked for the State or the City of Boston.
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Whitey was the honest Bulger, the rest all worked for the State or the City of Boston.
True...
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When talking specific makers, we can say "Sig's Super Capacity," or we can use round counts. Just don't over think it!
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If you're stupid enough to break the law and not smart enough to hide it, you deserve getting caught.
You do realize you break the law every day (4.38 Trillon pages of Laws, rules & regulations)? Unlike Hillary, in your case intent doesn't matter. If you do it while carrying a firearm, that adds "Aggrivated" or "Violent" to the crime.
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True Magoo, but they aren't concerned with you and me. They are watching for known felons. Our small local Sheriff's Department has picked up several in recent years by just walking the aisles and busting those they know.
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True Magoo, but they aren't concerned with you and me. They are watching for known felons. Our small local Sheriff's Department has picked up several in recent years by just walking the aisles and busting those they know.
I work every local gun show for my 2nd Amendment group and I see LEOs all the time. I've never seen anyone arrested (granted I'm usually talking 100 miles an hour) but I have seen some questionable characters. I posted this story on FB because I thought it was funny that a number of the people I talk to state they don't want to get on "A List" (to which I usually respond, if you aren't on a list yet you ought to be embarassed ;) ) and it turns out they are going into a data base (A List) just for showing up to a gun show.
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You do realize you break the law every day (4.38 Trillon pages of Laws, rules & regulations)? Unlike Hillary, in your case intent doesn't matter. If you do it while carrying a firearm, that adds "Aggrivated" or "Violent" to the crime.
we are all felons... just not been convicted.
I don't know any one that did not commit a felony as a kid.
in many states fire works are a felony. putting a penny on a rail road track, yep felony. removing a cat from a car, yep felony. hell up until just recently there were states that oral and anal sex were felonies.
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Lawyers make laws. It is what they do. They also make them to benefit....lawyers.
Never elect a lawyer to the legislature. They are technicians of the law....and most lack the ability to comprehend daily life processes....if they have time to contemplate such for the people when the aren't stealing us blind.
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To further emphasize this foolishness, Sig manufacturers the P-226 SCT, (Super Capacity Tactical). It ships with 4, 20 round magazines....... Unless you buy the .40 S&W version, which ships with 4, 15 round magazines.
So......According to Sig, "Super Capacity" is determined to be 20 rounds in 9 MM, but only 15 rounds in .40 S&W in the same gun.
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-sct.aspx
Now... Throw all of that out the window when you buy a Glock.
Just throw the Glock out the window. ;D
I figure I've been on one list or another for better than 40 years, whats one more?