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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2016, 07:23:45 AM »
Mass used to send State cops to watch fireworks stores in Seabrook NH until NH cops started arresting them.

I bet that was a good show.  I hope they spent a lot of time in the jail and had to wait on attorneys to cross the border to get them out.
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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2016, 08:13:57 AM »
Yup  LOL

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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2016, 08:20:43 AM »
It's pretty much truth that although Whitey Bulger is a murderous asshole, the hierarchy of the MA State Policia aren't too far off that mark!  The corruption in that department is legendary...

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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2016, 09:24:49 AM »
If you're stupid enough to break the law and not smart enough to hide it, you deserve getting caught.  It is like going around weigh stations.  There are only so many reasons to jump them, and most are illegal.  This is why you see the chasers on the back roads.
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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2016, 09:45:56 AM »
Of the mags you mention all but one are standard capacity. You're using the gun-banners terminology calling them high capacity. I don't know if you're aware you did that.

OK, higher capacity. Grinding water. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Is the glass half empty, or half full?

Straight from the Sig Sauer website:

"The pistol comes with four (4) 20 round super capacity magazines so it’s ready to see action."

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-tacops.aspx

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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2016, 10:04:22 AM »
At some point we need to accept that our use of proper terminology will be spun negative.  The key is that we need to quit canibalizing ourselves for using correct, but negatively spun, terms and phrases.
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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2016, 10:17:37 AM »
At some point we need to accept that our use of proper terminology will be spun negative.  The key is that we need to quit canibalizing ourselves for using correct, but negatively spun, terms and phrases.

I agree. The problem becomes what exactly is, "Standard Capacity", or "High Capacity", if a gun company determines 20 rounds to be, "Super Capacity"? It all becomes a silly play on words. Nothing more.

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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2016, 10:29:25 AM »
Some terms are easy:  Clip vs. Magazine.  However, others are more subjaective:  A 10 round 1911 magazine is high capacity, a 16 round Glock is standard, and a 10 round M&P is a low or limited capacity.  We need to just become comfortable with industry and manufacturer terminology and use it.  Like talking sex with your kids:  Use the proper terms, don't cringe, don't giggle or smirk, and don't act ashamed.

No matter what we say or how we say it, our words will be spun.  If we stick to the accepted anyone can defend against their spin.
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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2016, 10:46:13 AM »
We need to just become comfortable with industry and manufacturer terminology and use it.

Many times that becomes impossible. For example, (and this emphasizes the silliness of all of this), If a manufacturer, (In this case Sig), determines a, "Standard Capacity" Sig P-226 magazine is 15 rounds. And a "Super Capacity" magazine for the same gun is 20 rounds. What does that make a 33 round Glock magazine??.... "Ultra Super Capacity", or "Standard Capacity + 16"?......... Unless you put it into a Glock 26. You can go on like this forever, much like you can with political correctness. And it becomes every bit as stupid.

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Re: Law Enforcement Now Monitoring Gun Show Attendees
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2016, 10:59:48 AM »
To further emphasize this foolishness, Sig manufacturers the P-226 SCT, (Super Capacity Tactical). It ships with 4, 20 round magazines....... Unless you buy the .40 S&W version, which ships with 4, 15 round magazines.

So......According to Sig, "Super Capacity" is determined to be 20 rounds in 9 MM, but only 15 rounds in .40 S&W in the same gun.

 http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-sct.aspx

Now... Throw all of that out the window when you buy a Glock.

 

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