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Title: Falconry
Post by: TAB on February 19, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
Any one ever intrested  in doing it?   I have been for at least 10 years, but work has always been  in the way.

With the move coming, I was really Thinking hard about it.  If I start it before I start a business, I will have the time for it and I can set my schelgde  around it.  If I wait until after I start up, there is no way.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Timothy on February 19, 2019, 05:07:03 PM
Fighting Quaker was into falconry.  He ain’t been around in years though.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: crusader rabbit on February 20, 2019, 06:28:56 AM
Tab, you should recognize that falconry is more than just a hobby.  It requires a time commitment that doesn't end when you decide to take a few days off for vacation, or you need a little extra time for a job.  It's an everyday deal that will monopolize all your time if you want to have any chance of being a successful falconer.

This ain't a "racing on the weekends" kind of sport.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on February 20, 2019, 09:58:56 AM
Tab, you should recognize that falconry is more than just a hobby.  It requires a time commitment that doesn't end when you decide to take a few days off for vacation, or you need a little extra time for a job.  It's an everyday deal that will monopolize all your time if you want to have any chance of being a successful falconer.

This ain't a "racing on the weekends" kind of sport.
  that is the point.  It's also why I would have too start it before I start a business or I won't start it at all.  I am not a 9 to 5 kind of guy.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Timothy on February 20, 2019, 11:06:30 AM
Did the wife change jobs again?
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Solus on February 20, 2019, 11:26:59 AM
I read some advice on "bird" care, not specific to falcons.

It said that when a bird eats, if it does not eat again within 24 hours, it dies....not at all sure if that time limit is the same or longer or shorter for different birds...
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on February 20, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
Did the wife change jobs again?

Yes, back too shriners.  They have. Big ortho hospital there. Huge pay cut, ( -40%)but it's what she wants.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Pathfinder on February 22, 2019, 08:45:51 AM
I worked with a guy in grad school who had falcons, and CR is bang on the money. The most telling part is that you have to come to an "understanding" with the falcon/hawk/whatever raptor you have. It will always KNOW it is the boss, but it will obey you if you are able to dominate it.

I don't mean physically beating it, domination (in those days, may be different now) means staying up and keeping it awake until it can no longer function and sleep is mandatory - for it. You don't count until you stay up longer than the bird. It may take 48 hours, it may take more, but you have to be awake the whole time the bird is.

Find an active falconer and listen to what they say.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on February 22, 2019, 09:02:23 AM
I worked with a guy in grad school who had falcons, and CR is bang on the money. The most telling part is that you have to come to an "understanding" with the falcon/hawk/whatever raptor you have. It will always KNOW it is the boss, but it will obey you if you are able to dominate it.

I don't mean physically beating it, domination (in those days, may be different now) means staying up and keeping it awake until it can no longer function and sleep is mandatory - for it. You don't count until you stay up longer than the bird. It may take 48 hours, it may take more, but you have to be awake the whole time the bird is.

Find an active falconer and listen to what they say.
you have too be sponsored by law for a 2 year apprenticeship.    From the research I have done.

You need to pass a 100 question test with 80%, have an inspection of your facility, find a sponsor, vet a hunting licsene, then you can actually trap a bird.   By all accounts getting the sponsor is the challenge to get thru the red tape.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Big Frank on February 22, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
It sounds to me like it's more time and effort than it's worth. You may or may not get them to share a meal with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvH_Qa5svSw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-871m_w58
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on March 01, 2019, 12:34:59 PM
Well I ordered  some reading material from the chc.  I also  signed for a few different groups.  Worst case I am out $100.

I am trying too talk too a few guys too see if they are willing too have me cone out and get a 1st hand look at things/ maybe find a sponsor.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Big Frank on March 01, 2019, 05:43:56 PM
Good luck TAB.

You know what's better than a falcon? An F-16 Fighting Falcon.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on March 01, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Good luck TAB.

You know what's better than a falcon? An F-16 Fighting Falcon.
  I might be able too afford an hour or 2.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Rastus on May 09, 2019, 06:36:54 AM
Tab, have you moved forward on the falconry bug yet?
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on June 16, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
a little bit. been busy with my knee, selling the biz and another state to state move.  this time I am only taking what fits in the truck/ my 20' enclosed trailer... so you know, my toys and the things my wife can't live with out. 
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Rastus on June 17, 2019, 06:04:46 AM
I think I posted this in another thread....but just in case....where the heck are you moving to now?
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on June 17, 2019, 03:10:10 PM
we rented a small house in salt lake as that is where the misses will be working.

I am looking to go about hour north of the city.  after all the years living in the burbs, then finally getting a real taste of living out in the sticks.  no way I would live long term in the city.

its hard to make offers on property with out seeing it.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Rastus on June 17, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
Two words:  Zillow & Trulia

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQueryState={%22mapBounds%22:{%22west%22:-110.95427373681497,%22east%22:-110.89856961999368,%22south%22:40.841606081401025,%22north%22:40.868599585022736},%22isMapVisible%22:true,%22pagination%22:{},%22mapZoom%22:15,%22filterState%22:{%22lotSize%22:{%22min%22:871200}},%22isListVisible%22:true} (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQueryState={%22mapBounds%22:{%22west%22:-110.95427373681497,%22east%22:-110.89856961999368,%22south%22:40.841606081401025,%22north%22:40.868599585022736},%22isMapVisible%22:true,%22pagination%22:{},%22mapZoom%22:15,%22filterState%22:{%22lotSize%22:{%22min%22:871200}},%22isListVisible%22:true})
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on June 17, 2019, 08:42:37 PM
Zillow just started buying and flipping houses.  So I don't trust them.( not that I ever did)
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: Rastus on June 18, 2019, 06:55:24 AM
I don't buy from them.  I do find properties for sale using them.
Title: Re: Falconry
Post by: TAB on June 19, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
Part of my prob is I don't trust re agents.  I always use a  re lawyer for my transactions.   It's actually cheaper and they have 100% of the cost liability  vs the standard 3% most re agents have.   I am in a word cut-throat on real estate.  So the sellers agents don't like me.  I totally admit I am a contractual ass hole.  If you signed it, you better live up too it.  I tend to collect licenses, not as in get them myself, but get thiers revoked.  Last count 19 contractors, 7 lawyers and 93 re agents.  Did I mention I can be a hard ass?  It sucks that you have to be that way, but some times the only way you can get people to do the right thing is hold thier feet too the fire.

I am kind of like every mobster  in the movies, super respectful, easy to work work with, pays debts, but screw with me and you end up in a hole in the desert.   

I see the world in mainly black and white., very little grey.  It can make me difficult, but it makes me very predictable.  Once you know where my lines in the sand are, it's very easy not too cross them.