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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on March 31, 2020, 10:59:50 AM
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As I posted over on another area, Rimfire Challenge has caught my eye again.
I have been taking advantage of this whole COVID-19 thing to do some things around the house. I'm working from home, so I am busy during my work hours. However, since no one is watching, I actually take my coffee breaks and take a lunch break. I also have found an additional two hours in my day that was lost to traffic, getting gas, and moving work items in and out of the car. And then there is the no shopping. I picked up most of the groceries, and now we just have them delivered - SWEEEEEEEET!!!
Now I have some time to devote to some gun prep. I have two Ruger Mark III Targets. One is set up for bullseye, and I am going to set the other up for the Challenge. Somewhere in my gun stuff is a pair of plain rosewood grip panels I bought to replace the original thumb rest panels. Then will be a red dot. Ooooooh, the shopping fun!
The next will be to give the old 10/22 an upgrade. Of all my .22's I didn't realize that this is my only semi-automatic. It is a good old gun. Your basic '70s blue and wood with a tapered barrel, and Ruger's ugly trigger group. I'm planning to put in a new trigger, probably a Timney or Volquartsen drop in. Then will be replacing the Simmons 10/22 scope with a new red dot - Most likely identical to the one that goes on the Mark III.
Final step will be where I notice this move to the city the most. Range time to dial in both a round that both guns like, will eat without fail and group well, dial in the dots, and practice before first match. I know I will say it a lot, but I sure miss my backyard range!
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What kind of dot for the 10/22???? I suspect I should look it up myself but I'm lazy. I'm going to outfit that Blue 10/22 I got. The Cmore's are kinda expensive but you can change out the laser diodes so maybe that will be the way I go.
For a pistol I'll stick with the Buckmark I have now with the TacSol barrel and it's got the cheap Browning dot on it. I used it at the Rimfire Challenge many years ago at USSA. Problem was I got the dot in on a Saturday morning and used it same day....that does not work well.
You guys must be selling a lot of meat.....
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Haven't decided yet. I have a nice Burris 235 on the Bullseye gun, but they have discontinued that. I think I will go with a tube style rather than the open, but I don't know why.
Got sidetracked with 10/22 upgrades, and that squirrel distracted me from looking at optics.
The last two weeks it has been crazy. More than double our normal average, and even higher than our traditional busiest week of the year. This week the meat business is starting to slow. Prices have gone high due to panic buying out doing supply. A lot of freezers have been emptied, because the fresh wasn't available. For the last week our buyers have been pulling back. Don't want to get caught with coolers, freezers, and incoming orders stuffed with over priced meat when the prices go back to normal. Beef is showing signs of dropping today.
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I have a Vortex Sparc II that is nice....are you looking for a dot with laser or just a dot?
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if you decide to go with the USPSA Steel Challenge matches, give me a shout.. just built a BRN22 (10/22) in a PMACA chassis so I could use AR stock and grip...it and my 9mm PCC use the same sight, a 3 min Vortex Venom on a LMT 1/2" riser so not have as much blocking the field of view... I do get a little wash out on very bright days, but most of my shooting for the .22 is in a bunker
in the mid 90's I built a 10/22 for the Chevy Truck Sportsman's Team Challenge and fashioned a fixture to do triggers... the Ruger BX plastic trigger in the current rifle is not that bad, especially counting for the speed you need to shoot relatively big targets at close distances....the familiar AR Hogue grip helps with trigger control
a suggestion... go with factory 10 round rotary magazines as the aftermarket Ruger 15 and 25 round magazines are shorter front to rear, and are not 100% in either my Charger or BRN22
if you get first round flyers... lock down your firing pin so it doesn't have any vertical movement... if you need minute of angle groups, a barrel tuner works well... even on a .22
I get good luck with CCI Blazer, which is pretty cheap
Les
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I have a Vortex Sparc II that is nice....are you looking for a dot with laser or just a dot?
Just a dot
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if you decide to go with the USPSA Steel Challenge matches, give me a shout.. just built a BRN22 (10/22) in a PMACA chassis so I could use AR stock and grip...it and my 9mm PCC use the same sight, a 3 min Vortex Venom on a LMT 1/2" riser so not have as much blocking the field of view... I do get a little wash out on very bright days, but most of my shooting for the .22 is in a bunker
in the mid 90's I built a 10/22 for the Chevy Truck Sportsman's Team Challenge and fashioned a fixture to do triggers... the Ruger BX plastic trigger in the current rifle is not that bad, especially counting for the speed you need to shoot relatively big targets at close distances....the familiar AR Hogue grip helps with trigger control
a suggestion... go with factory 10 round rotary magazines as the aftermarket Ruger 15 and 25 round magazines are shorter front to rear, and are not 100% in either my Charger or BRN22
if you get first round flyers... lock down your firing pin so it doesn't have any vertical movement... if you need minute of angle groups, a barrel tuner works well... even on a .22
I get good luck with CCI Blazer, which is pretty cheap
Les
Thanks for the info and advice Les!
For magazines in the 10/22 I look for the factory. I have looked at several aftermarket, and have not found one that matches in quality to Ruger. I have never bought an aftermarket, but have talked to people that did, and everyone of them had stories of wear (plastic lips rather than steel) and failure to feed.
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Yeah,a the Venom will be much better then the suggestion that I had. It's on sale today only for $180.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/vortex-venom-red-dot-top-load-3-moa-dot.html (https://palmettostatearmory.com/vortex-venom-red-dot-top-load-3-moa-dot.html)
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Mike... I bought 2 3packs of 10 round rotary mags, two of six were not reliable, luckily I had a couple of the originals from the 90s... by taping the rear and sides of the factory Ruger 15 and 25 rounders, I got much better results.... the ejector is on the feed lip, and the loose fit seems to be the problem, shortening the feed lip seems to have made the two mags more reliable... I have 6 good mags for a match, so use two for practice magazines
Rastus, I have both the Venom and Sparc II dots... the Venom uses the smaller 1632 coin battery and the SPARC a 2032... naturally the 2032 gives better life... I leave my dot on the entire duration of a match, usually 3 1/2 hours or so.... the enclosed SPARC doesn't get washed out, but does block more of the field of view.... much more critical for me on the Steel Challenge than USPSA PCC
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That's what I was thinking...duh I shoulda never put the Sparc forward for this. So Les are you going to head over to Fort Smith for the challenge this fall? Mike is planning on it and I am too.
Coronavirus permitting....of course?
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Rastus... I'm 72 and pretty set in my routine... I haven't shot a big match since the 2015 Area 6 3 gun match...the Steel Challenge allows old guys that don't move very fast a chance to compete... the BRN22 is running pretty well and I'm getting much more familiar with it... has a very light front end and angled grip on an extension from the chassis
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....that's only about 8 years older than I am. I can't run and gun because of the weight of this humongous food blister I carry....and age. If you show up then maybe some of the other guys will as well. I happen to know Tab isn't working anymore.... And who knows...I understand Alf shoot competitions even though he hasn't been on the board in a long time.
It's always fun to see what the vendors have for sale...I'm thinking about the last rimfire match Michael filmed last season on Shooting Gallery. Just hanging around the gun culture at this level is worth it....
After the shoot (or before) spend some time relaxing in Branson....maybe do a little fishing which should be good that time of year. The temperatures ought to be outstanding....
I'm just sayin'.....
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....that's only about 8 years older than I am. I can't run and gun because of the weight of this humongous food blister I carry....and age. If you show up then maybe some of the other guys will as well. I happen to know Tab isn't working anymore.... And who knows...I understand Alf shoot competitions even though he hasn't been on the board in a long time.
It's always fun to see what the vendors have for sale...I'm thinking about the last rimfire match Michael filmed last season on Shooting Gallery. Just hanging around the gun culture at this level is worth it....
After the shoot (or before) spend some time relaxing in Branson....maybe do a little fishing which should be good that time of year. The temperatures ought to be outstanding....
I'm just sayin'.....
That's good..... I'll store that one for future use elsewhere. ;D 8)
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Larry Vickers put that one on me.
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Larry Vickers put that one on me.
I think I have an idea what helped form that food blister. I still remember a pizza place your treated me to.
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I wish that place was still there. I enjoyed it....Phil Strader turned me on to it.
Do you know where Phil is these days?
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That's good..... I'll store that one for future use elsewhere. ;D 8)
Only if you show up for the rimfire challenge in Fort Smith.....
I'm just sayin'....
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I wish that place was still there. I enjoyed it....Phil Strader turned me on to it.
Do you know where Phil is these days?
I do not know.
Last I heard he was with Sig Sauer, but I have heard his name anywhere for at least a year.
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Yeah, me either.
I did notice that Les had logged on today. I guess I didn't try hard enough to egg him into a response.
And where the heck is Billt?
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Last from Billt was notice that he would be off during the move and resettlement. Then he bopped in a few times. His last few posts were in October and at Thanksgiving. He talked about the move and the changes. Thanksgiving was his last post, and Christmas time was his last logging on.
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Zero in on which sight you are going to get?
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Zero in on which sight you are going to get?
I have gone on MidwayUSA and put the picatny rails (The Mark III came with Weaver) and both the Venom 6 moa, and Burris Fast Fire 8 moa on the wish list.
I need to pick one. They both come very highly recommended. I have several Burris products, and their company service is great, so I always look at them when possible. I went the larger dot, because that is what is recommended by several Rimfire and Steel Challenge shooters. At longer range they recommend the 3 moa dots, but the large dot is an advantage in these large plate short distance games, and I'm not going to go out very far with a 22.
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I wish that place was still there. I enjoyed it....Phil Strader turned me on to it.
Do you know where Phil is these days?
Now you did it! One of my quirks is when someone asks about something, I can't drop it. I go into full search mode.
Phil is still active on Facebook.
His personal page is still active and shows that he is still living in New Hampshire and working at Sig Sauer. Articles from a year ago talk about management in product development area. A search of Sig's website does not include him on their shooting team.
His professional, shooting and instruction, page has not had any activity since the beginning of November last year.
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Now you did it! One of my quirks is when someone asks about something, I can't drop it. I go into full search mode.
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Heh, heh, heh....now you've gone and done it. We have your kryptonite now.....heh, heh, heh. Expect to be deluged with requests.....
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Here's Michael's podcast about last year's Rimfire Challenge which was held at Ft. Smith, Arkansas, last year.
https://www.michaelbane.tv/down-range-radio-645-2019-rimfire-challenge-world-championship/43576/ (https://www.michaelbane.tv/down-range-radio-645-2019-rimfire-challenge-world-championship/43576/)
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So Mike you're killing me with this plan of yours to shoot at the challenge. You are going to cost me some serious $$$$'s.
First, I need some new kit for the Buckmark. I was looking at Tandemkros and they have some nice stuff....which will cost me $$$'s. And since I need practice I need to get the kit in place here pretty quick to practice with it.
Since you have caused me to shoot this thing....what if my Buckmark fails (doubtful...but still) ? Well heck I need a backup. Which means I probably need to buy another pistol...a new Ruger (I think they are more reliable than the Browning anyway). And if I buy a new pistol then I need more kit.
Do you see the spiral? Do you understand now the misery to the wallet you have caused? Shame on you.
Then there is the rifle thing. Same thing there....another 10/22 needed with kit....Yer' killin' me dude.