The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Big Frank on November 09, 2020, 02:24:12 AM
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What's the best handgun caliber? Some of people say that 9mm is the best because it has a high magazine capacity. Other people say that 10mm is the best because it has near-magnum power, given the right ammo. I say that 40mm is much better than either of them. This is one of several versions of M203 grenade launcher made by LMT. Sure, it's "only" a single shot, but have you ever heard of anyone needing double taps from a 40mm to take them down? I believe one shot will suffice, thank you very much. And reloading isn't too slow once you get the hang of it. The MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail allows you to mount whatever sights you desire on your pistol. And it's up to you to determine how critical you think shot placement is. "Close" may be close enough. And if you want to add a tactical pistol brace (it only looks like a stock), no problem! They've got you covered there too. LMT has all the 40mm handguns and handgun accessories you need. Maybe you're thinking, "But Frank, I need something for concealed carry." Well, that's where the Shorty 40 comes in. You see, there really is a 40mm pistol for every gun owner and every occasion, whether you want a 7", 9" or 12" barrel length. With or with a stabilizing brace. Iron sights, LPVO, tactical light, bipod, and laser designator for painting targets? Sure, what do you think they make quad-rail adaptors for? It's modular so you can put it together any way you like, just like an AR-15 AKA Lego for adults.
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In IDPA you just assume 0 points down, but it's a little tougher in USPSA to figure the points.
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If I wanted a single shot I'd have stuck with .58 cal.
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I have the .357 Maximum barrel on my Contender at the moment. It's the only blued barrel for my stainless gun. With some of the ammo I got from Reed's Ammunition And Research, it's more powerful than the .44 magnum. I have 10" barrels for both and after a quick look all I could find in the same bullet weight at Reed's was a .44 Mag 200 grain bullet at 1,600 fps and a completely different kind of 200 grain .357 Max. bullet traveling at 1,650 fps.
The best caliber is whatever you're comfortable with and can afford to practice with. If I was going to get into another caliber I think it would be 9mm because they have good defensive ammo now, even if the standard ammo has to be loaded to higher that .45 ACP+P pressures to accomplish anything. The ammo weighs less and it's cheaper. Then I can't be accused of being a .45 snob, not that I ever was. But I really get tired of all the this caliber is too small, that caliber is too slow BS. Just pick one, or better yet. pick more than one and enjoy them. The Ruger-57 looks good too and if they make PC carbine or AR carbine to go with it that would make it more interesting. I don't want to spent a lot of money on a less powerful rifle but like the idea of a high velocity pistol.
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Real men carry a NeoPup.
What can I say, we got big deer around here. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE
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Do they make a handgun in 20mm? I've seen .50 BMG and .577 Tyrannosaur, but never 20mm. I was surprised to see the 40mm M203 pistols. Recoil may be worse than a 12 gauge pistol but I'd try it and see. If there was a semi-auto pistol available in 13mm or 12mm, the calibers the Gyrojet was chambered in but with conventional ammo, I wouldn't mind having one of those. Even if a 12mm bullet failed to expand it would still be 12mm (.49 caliber). If I had the resources I would create a 12x24mm cartridge and a pistol to use it. It would use a single-stack or semi-staggered magazine. There would be too many people who couldn't handle a double-stack 12mm. Maybe 12 rounds of 12mm. A 9 or 10 is okay but I'll take a dozen mm.
You can be big and heavy and have all the penetration you'll ever want, but let's talk more about guns. ;)
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Do they make a handgun in 20mm?
Well, I have heard of a "hand cannon" but this would be "hand field artillery".
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Would 10 gage work for you ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YziAAEG5sf8
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Would 10 gage work for you?
Oh HELL NO!!
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Tom, I guess that will have to do until I get some Big Iron. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzICMIu5zFY
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One of THOSE contests ? ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlDgwo52tI
Mines bigger ;D
And a spiffy looking guard to polish it. ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKmi0PN7LxM
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Those aren't handguns. Here's mine, Tom. A Desert Eagle with an M203 Shorty 40 grenade launcher. I call it the "wrist breaker". I bet you didn't know that's what the rails on the pistol were for. I'm still working on a better front sight for it, but for now I just guesstimate. BTW, it's my only crew-served handgun.
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A bargain at twice the price ;D
https://www.spikestactical.com/collections/havoc/havoc-37mm-launcher-9/
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A bargain at twice the price ;D
https://www.spikestactical.com/collections/havoc/havoc-37mm-launcher-9/
It just needs to be 3mm larger!
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It just needs to be 3mm larger!
You can pack some interesting crap into a flare body as well. ;D
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/37_mm.html
https://firequest.com/37mm-accessories.html
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I bought a break-open 37mm pistol and an M2037 flare gun, but don't think I can get the super-duper bird bombs anymore that I found at a gun show one time. I have some empty cases I could reload but never bothered with trying. IIRC I bought smoke grenades and flares from Firequest or another place just like it that were both pretty lame. If I was going to buy another 37mm flare gun I might get the "Bloop Tube" M79 style. They may be old-fashioned but they still look bad-@$$ and the longer barrel should have a higher velocity for more range. This one looks real enough to fool just about anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M79_grenade_launcher
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I just posted 2 links for ammo.
Including Bird bombs.
You can pack some interesting crap into a flare body as well. ;D
http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/37_mm.html
https://firequest.com/37mm-accessories.html
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I just posted 2 links for ammo.
Including Bird bombs.
I know, but they weren't like the bird bombs I had. They were a lot longer and probably twice as powerful.
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I may have found my next pistol. ;D I don't know what kind of shell that is, but it looks better than a 5" long bird bomb.
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You may have seen this picture of a 12 gauge Desert Eagle before. That would be more awkward handling than than the .50 AE, but not much.
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I know, but they weren't like the bird bombs I had. They were a lot longer and probably twice three times as powerful.
I was thinking about that later. The ones I bought at the gun show were probably three times as powerful as the ones I got at Firequest or Ammoquest or whatever it was called. Maybe even more than that, but I can't say for sure. I only know that they were way, way longer and a LOT louder. They made the other 37mm bird bombs sound like 12 gauge bird bombs in comparison. That's why I referred to them as "super-duper" bird bombs. They weren't regular bird bombs that you can buy at online stores. Not even close to the regular kind.
I haven't seen "gopher bombs" for sale anywhere in a long, long time either. I once had 2 boxes of them totaling 144. They were about the same explosive power and decibel level of M-80s. After I bought mine they said you had to sign a statement saying you were a farmer and needed the pest control devices because you were experiencing crop damage. Once they had the signed statement on file they would sell them to you.
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Forget about the 9mm and 10mm. Here's a 66mm pistol!
X1 Products is now accepting a $20 DEPOSIT to reserve their X1 Stand Alone Launcher. The remaining payment will be due upon shipment for a final cost of $399.99. I don't know how well 3D printed parts will hold up to the recoil of launching cans, but if something goes wrong we should hear about it.
https://xproducts.com/x1-stand-alone-launcher/