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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on November 25, 2023, 09:34:21 PM
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I am taking some continuing education classes, and every week I learn something new again - Basically remember items learned long ago and forgotten. This past week the topic lead to the fall of the Roman empire. The authors of the texts all listed the same basic causes:
1. Political instability
2. Military weakness
3. Economic decline
4. Social decay
5. Rise of Christianity
They also pointed out the role of Pax Romana in these and the final fall. Pax Romana is a 200 year period circa 27 BCE to 180 CE. During this period Rome flourished. They were on an economic high, both publicly and privately, entertainment grew, the footprint of power expanded, and they lived in relative peace. The sense of piece was from sheer military might, and the continual fighting to keep threats at bay.
In the end all of this strength and prosperity lead to a crash in economics (they went broke), socially (all moral norms had been scrapped), and their military was spent, demoralized and weak. Pax Romana, and Rome, fell to a civil war.
Look at this list of five six items from 1,800 years ago. Compare them to our nation today. Political instability - CHECK; Economic decline - CHECK; Social decay - CHECK; And the rise of non-traditional religion - CHECK. Our military is still holding on, but struggling, and a divide so wide that we see civil war on the horizon.
Where are we in the historic spectrum of nations that eat themselves?
In the late 1950s and early 1960s Nikita Khrushchev is recorded stating many threats and predictions. Some of his comments have been authenticated, some have been deemed true in message if not actual text and some are unknown but match his pattern. Among these are if we keep feeding them (Americans) small doses of Socialism they will wake up in Communism, and we will take America without firing a shot - They will be destroyed from within.
Sobering thoughts for those who pay attention and care.
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I'm afraid we're doomed to repeat history.
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Yep. About all we learn from studying history is that we, society, don’t learn anything from studying history.
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I'm afraid we're doomed to repeat history.
Napoleon Bonaparte, "Nothing is lost as long as courage remains."
Do we have the courage to fight for what we have and that others are attempting to take?
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History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.
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History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.
As long as it's not prophecy like the world ending in 2012. ;)
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It's not. But it does come from an ancient source that is remarkably accurate.
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History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.
Nostradamus ??
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Nostradamus ??
500 years ago, when he said:
One named Hister shall become a captain of Greater Germany
No Law does this man observe and bloody his rise and fall shall be
he was so close to being exactly right, it's scary. He just spelled Hitler wrong, with an S in front of the T, rather than an L after it.
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Nostradamus ??
Nope. The Bible. Prophecies shown either true or pending.
500 years ago, when he said:
One named Hister shall become a captain of Greater Germany
No Law does this man observe and bloody his rise and fall shall be
he was so close to being exactly right, it's scary. He just spelled Hitler wrong, with an S in front of the T, rather than an L after it.
But then I can never find the original text on that. Just someone's interpretation of what the text was...generally recently written.
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Nope. The Bible. Prophecies shown either true or pending.
But then I can never find the original text on that. Just someone's interpretation of what the text was...generally recently written.
Well, here you go. It took me a couple of seconds to find it. ;)
Prophéties 2:24:
Bestes farouches de faim fleuves tranner :
Plus part du champ encontre Hister sera,
En caige de fer le grand fera treisner,
Quand rien enfant de Germain observera.
I hope your French is better than mine. Mine is so bad, I always have ask people to excuse my French. ;D
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This is what it translates to...
Bestes fierce hungry rivers tranner :
More of the field against Hister will be,
In an iron cage the great will make treisner,
When nothing Germain's child will observe.
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Revelation 2:24 (ESV)
But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden.
(NIV)
Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan's so-called deep secrets, 'I will not impose any other burden on you,
Context matters, and this verse doesn't fit this discussion. Unless, you are going for one of our famous major drifts.
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Translating something one word at a time is nearly meaningless. I ate plenty of pomme de terre frites while abroad, literally apples of the earth fried. But I never ate an apple that came out of the ground, fried or otherwise. Pomme de terre frites, pomme frites for short, isn't apple fries as it translates, but fried potatoes, AKA french fries. Context is everything. Hmm, where have I heard that before? ??? :-\
Mmm mmm. That is some mighty fine thread drift if I do say so myself. ;D But, now I'm hungry for fried ground apples.
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Came across this this week, and have been stewing on it. Boiled over when I found it verified on the likes of CNN and MSNBC. Pres. Biden, and his administration, claim to have the authority to seize drug patents in order to produce and lower the prices of medications. Regardless of what you think of the drug and medicine world, this is a dangerous and slippery slope. A slippery slope we are already on, but it is getting steeper and faster.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/biden-administration-unveils-new-policy-to-seize-patents-of-overpriced-drugs/ar-AA1lcyuk
socialism /sō′shə-lĭz″əm/
noun
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
On top of this announcement of coming socialism, the Pres. is defying the Court and expanding his student debt "forgiveness."
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I think that during the last ten years of Ronald Reagan's life when he was dying of Alzheimer's disease, he STILL would have been a better president than that commie POS Joe Schmoe Biden.