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History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« on: November 25, 2023, 09:34:21 PM »
I am taking some continuing education classes, and every week I learn something new again - Basically remember items learned long ago and forgotten. This past week the topic lead to the fall of the Roman empire. The authors of the texts all listed the same basic causes:

1. Political instability
2. Military weakness
3. Economic decline
4. Social decay
5. Rise of Christianity

They also pointed out the role of Pax Romana in these and the final fall. Pax Romana is a 200 year period circa 27 BCE to 180 CE. During this period Rome flourished. They were on an economic high, both publicly and privately, entertainment grew, the footprint of power expanded, and they lived in relative peace. The sense of piece was from sheer military might, and the continual fighting to keep threats at bay.

In the end all of this strength and prosperity lead to a crash in economics (they went broke), socially (all moral norms had been scrapped), and their military was spent, demoralized and weak. Pax Romana, and Rome, fell to a civil war.

Look at this list of five six items from 1,800 years ago. Compare them to our nation today. Political instability - CHECK; Economic decline - CHECK; Social decay - CHECK; And the rise of non-traditional religion - CHECK. Our military is still holding on, but struggling, and a divide so wide that we see civil war on the horizon.

Where are we in the historic spectrum of nations that eat themselves?

In the late 1950s and early 1960s Nikita Khrushchev is recorded stating many threats and predictions. Some of his comments have been authenticated, some have been deemed true in message if not actual text and some are unknown but match his pattern. Among these are if we keep feeding them (Americans) small doses of Socialism they will wake up in Communism, and we will take America without firing a shot - They will be destroyed from within.

Sobering thoughts for those who pay attention and care.
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2023, 10:38:13 PM »
I'm afraid we're doomed to repeat history.
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2023, 08:10:44 AM »
Yep. About all we learn from studying history is that we, society, don’t learn anything from studying history.
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2023, 05:54:03 PM »
I'm afraid we're doomed to repeat history.

Napoleon Bonaparte, "Nothing is lost as long as courage remains."

Do we have the courage to fight for what we have and that others are attempting to take?
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2023, 04:16:28 PM »
History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2023, 12:24:50 AM »
History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.

As long as it's not prophecy like the world ending in 2012.  ;)
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2023, 08:29:50 AM »
It's not.  But it does come from an ancient source that is remarkably accurate.
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2023, 04:42:14 PM »
History is cool but I'm going with prophecy now.
Nostradamus ??
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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2023, 02:22:04 AM »
Nostradamus ??


500 years ago, when he said:

One named Hister shall become a captain of Greater Germany
No Law does this man observe and bloody his rise and fall shall be

he was so close to being exactly right, it's scary. He just spelled Hitler wrong, with an S in front of the T, rather than an L after it.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: History Rememberd - And best not forgotten
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2023, 11:45:27 AM »
Nostradamus ??

Nope.  The Bible.  Prophecies shown either true or pending.



500 years ago, when he said:

One named Hister shall become a captain of Greater Germany
No Law does this man observe and bloody his rise and fall shall be

he was so close to being exactly right, it's scary. He just spelled Hitler wrong, with an S in front of the T, rather than an L after it.


But then I can never find the original text on that.   Just someone's interpretation of what the text was...generally recently written. 
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