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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MAUSERMAN on August 21, 2025, 07:33:51 PM
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It’s been a while but kimi and I are still alive. No thanks to California’s ridiculous laws we both could have killed. We took a trip to San Jose to visit the Winchester mansion. Both of us are into the paranormal and I’m a gun nerd so our trip made a boatload of sense. Night one was uneventful except for the rough part of town you cross to catch the freeway. We went the local bass pro and had lunch. As we made are way back to hotel all hell breaks loose. Car pulls out in front of us and second blocks us in. Three shit heads run out and carjack us. They grabbed Kimi first and came for me second, I didn’t see the gun until I got pistol whipped to the face. I could only think of her safety and made my way to her as they took off. I lost a couple of teeth and needed a couple of stitches. Kimi was scared out of her mind and in full panic mode. To make this story short cops basically did nothing after the fact and the case is still open. Im more angry that someone puts hands on my wife and traumatized her. I can tell she’s super nervous when we drive somewhere and won’t go anywhere by herself.
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Wow. Just wow. So sorry.
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That sucks. I always have my doors locked, they're programmed to lock when I shift into gear if I forget, and I'm prepared to ram anyone who gets in my way. Especially if it's a car behind me that won't cause damage to my radiator, engine, or headlights. And if I ever rent a car, I'll be sure to take out insurance on it, because you never know what might happen.
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That is terrible. I hope she gets over it and that you can get that tooth thing fixed quick...maybe the dentist will have a little compassion and not charge you out the a$$.
Did they run out of the front car or back car? Unless I am in a micro car I'm going to plow my way out of it...might get shot....might not. I'd rather take my chances to avoid getting injured but with the possibility of getting shot as opposed to what happened to you.
I figure it happened so fast that you didn't have time to think. Unless you have grown up around hoodlums and thugs it's hard to recognize and believe that it's something that is happening to you.
I was 14 when I had a gun pulled on me. After that I changed a lot...I guess I hardened up from then on out.
But for the life of me I still don't know how they got those 50 cal rounds in that little 38 revolver...them things was huge in that cylinder. Bigger than the whole barrel!
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When my older brother was assistant manager at a Pizza Hut someone stuck a sawed off shotgun in his face as he was leaving and said give me the money. He didn't argue, and said the barrels looked "this big" holding both hands up, indicating they looked way bigger than the bore of a punt gun. The only time I remember having a gun in my face was my ex with a .22 LR at the range. She turned around and pointed a loaded gun right in my face. You can guess where her booger hook was.
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To be honest my guard was down and just having a great time with my wife. My F sport was not recovered and the cops seemed unbothered like this happens all the time. My face busted up and my wife pleading for an ambulance the one cop I guess took pity on me. I don’t care about what happened to me or having lost the car. It’s seeing my kimi so traumatized. Shes from chiba Japan a place you can literally leave your front door open and your car running and nothing would happen. To see the pain in her eyes breaks me. Her mom is on her way to come visit and stay for a couple of and take her home to relax and find some peace of mind.
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I am so sorry for you and your wife. It is a BAD way to be introduced to the increased violent crime, enhanced by the free flow of illegal immigrants across the southern border in California, thanks to Newsom.
How the people of California can be so stupid as to allow this to continue is beyond my comprehension.
I hope her time home helps her recover and relax, but with what she went through it will take time.
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I'm sorry this happened to the two of you and equally upset about the lack of legal support. However, I'm very thankful that you both survived well enough to get the help you need to heal - Physically and emotionally.
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On a side but related note, my new job has me thinking about what we drive for our personal vehicles. Right now, we have two Chevys - An Equinox and a Traverse. Neither very heavy or solid. At work, among safety standards and the many hours of training, there are two things I keep in mind: 1. Nothing I'm carrying is worth dying for, so hand it over, be helpful to the scum, and be a good witness; and 2. That vehicle is very heavy and solid - Roadblocks are a reason to use the right foot with authority.
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I had a bad experience in San Jose. Lots of drug trafficking goes on around that area. I’ll never go back
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Im definitely not going back to San Jose. My boss has approved my leave of absence so I can go to Japan with kimi. She’s never experienced anything so awful. Luckily for I’ve got a very supportive family that will take care of my stuff while I’m away. I’m going to miss my pup Athena but I’ve got to help her momma get well
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I am so sorry that happened to you.
I wish I could say i am shocked. I spent almost 4 decades there, it is not the state I grew up in.
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Sorry about the carjacking and the impact it has had on your wife. You are absolutely correct in taking care of her - family always comes first.
I haven't been to San Jose in eons, went there back in the 90's for a tech conference, no problems then.
BUY, having driven in Chicago most of my adult life, I learned some basic skills in defensive driving. Nothing will help when a guy comes off the Ryan onto the Eisenhower in Chicago doing about 90 (at 10PM) and cuts across all lanes of traffic to make an exit, as happened to me. I managed to miss him cuz in urban situations I keep my head on a constant swivel and I saw him coming and slowed down.
That said, I also stop at lights and signs with an car length in front of me. I find my self doing that in Savannah too as it is getting a might feisty these days. It really sucks to be in my 70s and still have to do this kind of nonsense, but I will keep me and my wife safe.
As for getting cut off front and back, I'm with those advocating hitting the car behind as hard as possible to gain maneuvering room. And running over the perps if they're in the way
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Using a vehicle as self-defense against a firearm should be considered justified, even by a jury of complete idiots. If you kill them, so what? They shouldn't have been trying to kill you first. It would be justified vehicular homicide.
Never let your conscious be your guide. You probably didn't expect to see that this morning. But it can keep you from doing what needs to be done. You know who doesn't have to worry about what is and is not morally acceptable? Someone who does nothing and pays the price for it. If you do whatever it takes to survive, the details can be sorted out later.
I was thinking of that Dionne Warwick song, Do You Know The Way to San Jose? No. As a matter of fact I don't. and that's fine with me.
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Using a vehicle as self-defense against a firearm should be considered justified, even by a jury of complete idiots. If you kill them, so what? They shouldn't have been trying to kill you first. It would be justified vehicular homicide.
In a case of self-defense, the car can be considered the tool, the same as any self-defense tool you use. Check out your self-defense insurance coverage, and if they don't cover any legal tool, find a new carrier.
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Wish me luck I’m going to have my teeth replaced today. Getting two implants put in. BTW I don’t like dentists
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How did that dental work go for you?
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I can chew my food much easier and I don’t look like a jack-o’-lantern. Kimi is more at ease seeing my new teeth. Momma is here and helping us pack and get ready
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I was thinking of that Dionne Warwick song, Do You Know The Way to San Jose? No. As a matter of fact I don't. and that's fine with me.
I do: Go through the gates of Hell and turn left. Covers pretty much anywhere in Commiefornia, with OR and WA running hard to catch up. Only thing that can save the Left Coast is a full-on "Party Like It's 1865" Reconstruction... and this time finish the job by abolishing the Party of Sedition and Slavery.
Prayers, OP.
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Well guys the time is now. We’re off to the land of the raising sun.
To win any battle, you must fight as if you were already dead🙏🏻
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Safe travels.
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Good morning from chiba prefecture all. It’s a beautiful morning. Just got back from a quick 5 mile run and hungry as heck. Everyone here has been very welcoming. Kimis whole demeanor has changed. I can tell she was not only more relaxed but homesick. Time for some tea
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Still over yonder or are you back. I've been away since around the 9th of September...back now though.
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I used to go to Japan frequently for business. Magnavox Marine Electronics had an arrangement with a Japanese company to manufacture for the local market, and I was the marketing manager for that part of the world. I always enjoyed those trips--mainly because I didn't have to personally pay for meals or hotel accommodations. I would be very happy to visit again if I could afford it. Absolutely love the food.
I left California for a better job, and have never looked back.
Bunny and I just did a road trip on Route 66. For those who don't know, Route 66 starts in Chicago and ends in Santa Monica, California. I refuse to go into Chicago, so our trip started at the Illinois border. And I won't patronize anything in California, so our trip ended at the California border.
For those who travel, you might consider a similar rule. Don't go to places or spend your money where your rights are not respected and where the government flat out hates you.
FWIW,
Crusader Rabbit
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Bunny and I just did a road trip on Route 66. For those who don't know, Route 66 starts in Chicago and ends in Santa Monica, California. I refuse to go into Chicago, so our trip started at the Illinois border. And I won't patronize anything in California, so our trip ended at the California border.
Had you come to the starting point, and I had known, I would have loved to meet you in person. Sadly, I am here for work for a while but making the best of it.
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You had a bit of a spelling issue. I hope you don't mind that I fixed it for you....
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Bunny and I just did a road trip on Route 66. For those who don't know, Route 66 starts in SHITcago and ends in Santa Monica, California. I refuse to go into SHITcago, so our trip started at the Illinois border. And I won't patronize anything in California, so our trip ended at the California border.
For those who travel, you might consider a similar rule. Don't go to places or spend your money where your rights are not respected and where the government flat out hates you.
FWIW,
Crusader Rabbit
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I used to go to Japan frequently for business. Magnavox Marine Electronics had an arrangement with a Japanese company to manufacture for the local market, and I was the marketing manager for that part of the world. I always enjoyed those trips--mainly because I didn't have to personally pay for meals or hotel accommodations. I would be very happy to visit again if I could afford it. Absolutely love the food.
I left California for a better job, and have never looked back.
Bunny and I just did a road trip on Route 66. For those who don't know, Route 66 starts in Chicago and ends in Santa Monica, California. I refuse to go into Chicago, so our trip started at the Illinois border. And I won't patronize anything in California, so our trip ended at the California border.
For those who travel, you might consider a similar rule. Don't go to places or spend your money where your rights are not respected and where the government flat out hates you.
FWIW,
Crusader Rabbit
throw out the entire west coast then. or and wa you cant carry with out of state permits. no normal mags or ars in wa as well. it is really sad. some very pretty places.
I have only 2 more trips left to ca in me. 1 to sell a dead relatives home which is coming up soon and the last one will be to move my mother to UT in April. after that I am done. my last structural warranty is up 10/23. on the 24th my ca corporation will close, I can then send all my tax crap to Ftb and be done with it
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I used to go to Japan frequently for business.
I use to go to Japan on business frequently, also. Of course my "company's" overarching business plan was to kill people and destroy things.
I use to go to California on business as well. Initially for the USAF, then for various commercial concerns. My only really good memories was of going to The Oar House in Santa Monica in the late '60s. Despite the war protests going on in CA, I was treated kindly by the patron's there. Went back several times post service and was very sad to learn the bar recently closed.
On the flip side my mate and I were run out, literally, of a bar in Borax, CA. You'd think in a conservative, mining community they'd have been more supportive of servicemen. I remember the manager coming over, comping our meals and directing us to the back door. It opened outward and I slammed it has hard as I could into the face of the miner chasing us.
Those were the days.
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And he was chasing you because......?
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Because we were in the military. Baby Killers was one of more polite terms he used. The other miners weren't as aggressive not as drunk I suppose.
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He deserved a two week stay in the local hospital.
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Alf should open a bar of his own and refuse to serve alcohol to miners. ;)