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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: JadedGunner on November 05, 2008, 12:10:09 AM

Title: What we need and what we get......
Post by: JadedGunner on November 05, 2008, 12:10:09 AM
Listening to the call-in opinions after the elections on C-SPAN, I feel I must be brainwashed. Everything BHO said was very elegant, yet seemed........fake. But everyone agreed it was the right thing he was elected. Are my values wrong? Is there something wrong with the way I see our country? Is it me? I see a long road ahead regaurdless. This man has contradicted himself on most everything I have ever heard him say. I just don't trust this man. He is our president-elect and I will <tight lipped> support my president because it is my duty as a citizen. However we all need to stand tough and "guide" him. Maybe it's just wishfull thinking. I don't know
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: Rastus on November 05, 2008, 12:14:20 AM
No, your values aren't wrong.  The nation is under a strong delusion...you may have just witnessed it's death.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: TAB on November 05, 2008, 12:30:22 AM
No, your values aren't wrong.  The nation is under a strong delusion...you may have just witnessed it's death.


Actually, if you look at the popular vote... you would notice that its actually very close.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 05, 2008, 12:38:31 AM
God Bless America, and GOD DAMN THOSE F$%& IDIOTS THAT PUT HITLER IN THE formerly WHITE HOUSE !
THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET, unfortunately we are stuck in a country with them   :'(
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: Rastus on November 05, 2008, 05:43:15 AM
God Bless America, and GOD DAMN THOSE F$%& IDIOTS THAT PUT HITLER IN THE formerly WHITE HOUSE !
THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET, unfortunately we are stuck in a country with them   :'(

Unfortunately, being stuck with the judgement of others has, for the most part, always been with us.  Noah was an exception, but even his life was shaped by what was to come.

Look at what Caiphus caused.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: jaybet on November 05, 2008, 06:17:47 AM

Actually, if you look at the popular vote... you would notice that its actually very close.
Tab is right... 52%-48% or something like that? After spending more money than any two political campaigns put together that's the best Obama could do? He just got a PILE of electoral votes.

I think ANY person will temper their beliefs when they get inaugurated and the weight of their responsibility finally sinks in. If you have commanded troops or fire brigades or something like that, the presidency is a billion times heavier. Any president begins to moderate based on what needs to be done. What I am afraid of is congress. Reed and Pelosi with a near bullet proof majority is a scary friggin thought.

We may all find ourselves gathered on a gun owner reservation one day.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: SwoopSJ on November 05, 2008, 07:17:05 AM
We may all find ourselves gathered on a gun owner reservation one day.

I'll bring the chips. 

Swoop
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: ericire12 on November 05, 2008, 07:23:40 AM
God Bless America, and GOD DAMN THOSE F$%& IDIOTS THAT PUT HITLER IN THE formerly WHITE HOUSE !
THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET, unfortunately we are stuck in a country with them   :'(

Yes, maybe this is what Rev Wright meant.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: ericire12 on November 05, 2008, 07:24:48 AM
Tab is right... 52%-48% or something like that? After spending more money than any two political campaigns put together that's the best Obama could do? He just got a PILE of electoral votes.

I think ANY person will temper their beliefs when they get inaugurated and the weight of their responsibility finally sinks in. If you have commanded troops or fire brigades or something like that, the presidency is a billion times heavier. Any president begins to moderate based on what needs to be done. What I am afraid of is congress. Reed and Pelosi with a near bullet proof majority is a scary friggin thought.

We may all find ourselves gathered on a gun owner reservation one day.

There will be no vetoes either.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: tt11758 on November 06, 2008, 05:41:10 PM
There will be no vetoes either.

Just pray to God that the Republicans in the Senate remember what the hell it is to BE a Republican, and have the stones to use their fillibuster ability as the weapon it was intended to be!!
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: blackwolfe on November 06, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
Listening to the call-in opinions after the elections on C-SPAN, I feel I must be brainwashed. Everything BHO said was very elegant, yet seemed........fake. But everyone agreed it was the right thing he was elected. Are my values wrong? Is there something wrong with the way I see our country? Is it me? I see a long road ahead regaurdless. This man has contradicted himself on most everything I have ever heard him say. I just don't trust this man. He is our president-elect and I will <tight lipped> support my president because it is my duty as a citizen. However we all need to stand tough and "guide" him. Maybe it's just wishfull thinking. I don't know
It is our duty as citizens to resist and overthrow those that pervert the constitution.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: pops1911 on November 06, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
It is our duty as citizens to resist and overthrow those that pervert the constitution.

It may be time!
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 07, 2008, 01:10:41 AM
Listening to the call-in opinions after the elections on C-SPAN, I feel I must be brainwashed. Everything BHO said was very elegant, yet seemed........fake. But everyone agreed it was the right thing he was elected. Are my values wrong? Is there something wrong with the way I see our country? Is it me? I see a long road ahead regaurdless. This man has contradicted himself on most everything I have ever heard him say. I just don't trust this man. He is our president-elect and I will <tight lipped> support my president because it is my duty as a citizen. However we all need to stand tough and "guide" him. Maybe it's just wishfull thinking. I don't know

It IS NOT your duty to support ANY president. It is your duty to support your country and defend the Constitution. When the Government is going against the Constitution it is your duty, (for military, LEGAL OBLIGATION) to defy the government and defend the Constitution . What do you think was meant by "threats Foriegn and DOMESTIC" ?




It may be time!

Yes, it may, if not now , SOON. Watch for the beginning of mass murders like Waco.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: runstowin on November 07, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from tombogon:     It IS NOT your duty to support ANY president. It is your duty to support your country and defend the Constitution. When the Government is going against the Constitution it is your duty, (for military, LEGAL OBLIGATION) to defy the government and defend the Constitution . What do you think was meant by "threats Foriegn and DOMESTIC" ?

"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God"  Benjamin Franklin

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
Benjamin Franklin (attributed), at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 08, 2008, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from tombogon:     It IS NOT your duty to support ANY president. It is your duty to support your country and defend the Constitution. When the Government is going against the Constitution it is your duty, (for military, LEGAL OBLIGATION) to defy the government and defend the Constitution . What do you think was meant by "threats Foriegn and DOMESTIC" ?

"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God"  Benjamin Franklin

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.
Benjamin Franklin (attributed), at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

Quoting the 2 crazy guys ?
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: Rastus on November 08, 2008, 07:49:08 AM
Quoting the 2 crazy guys ?

Naw....not crazy at all.  Just a couple of guys that would prefer to not live under the yoke of tyranny with jack boots on their throats.
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 08, 2008, 10:47:33 AM
You know what Zapata said.
 Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees, at least that's the quote, Zapata was a poorly educated bandit leader so he probably SAID something more like "Ees better to die like a man than to live as a whore" then the historians cleaned it up so it would not shock the old ladies of both genders   ;D
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: runstowin on November 08, 2008, 07:45:21 PM
then the historians cleaned it up so it would not shock the old ladies of both genders   ;D

lol!
Title: Re: What we need and what we get......
Post by: runstowin on November 08, 2008, 07:46:51 PM
Quoting the 2 crazy guys ?

Yeah, I'm a little short on my own quotes