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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: dedbird on January 24, 2009, 06:43:28 PM
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i purchased a Walther p22 about two mos. ago. Have put about 300 rounds through it. While cleaning have noticed a gouging of metal on the underside of the slide just to the rear of the extractor. There is a machined cutout in the slide, on each side, and it is the forward section of this cutout that is being gouged. this area seems to be aligned with the two ears( dogs, lugs, etc.) that are part of the trigger assy. and will rise about 1/32 inch when the trigger is squeezed, initiating recoil. Upon last field stripping I noticed fine, bright metal shavings just forward of these ears. Apparently the slide is made of aluminium as gouging is quite bright. I am using "normal 22lr ammo., remmington thunderbolt and federal champion. Has anyone encountered a similar problem? Will probably send piece back to Walther for a fix. not a cheap gun and would expect better from a name brand.
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There have been some(not a lot) problems with the P22's slide. The slide is made of a zinc alloy IIRC. If you are having a problem contact S&W/Walther customer service and they will be happy to help you from what I have heard.
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ccd: Much thanks. Will do so. dedbird
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I gave my wife one of these for Xmas, She absolutely loves it. I took it apart to clean it after she shot about 150 rounds out of it since new. I have the exact same issue. I called Walther\S&W, the guy I finally got on the line asked, "did it malfunction?" I say, "no but it's full of shavings and is gouged on both sides, that can't be good" He says " it's normal wear in it will eventually stop"
Not being satisfied with that answer, I did some googling and found an excellent book on the rimfire central forums. search for "1917/1911 p22 bible" This guy has laid out exactly what to do to fix this problem that obviously Walther and S&W could give a **** about. Man I wish I had found it before shooting it so I could have prevented the wear that has already occurred. I haven't had time to modify it yet but it will be corrected before it is shot again. I seriously doubt I will spend any more money on a new Walther or S&W anytime soon if this is any indication of the QA there. After doing some reading it seems this problem has been going on since this thing hit the market. You would think that they would have sense enough to correct the problem by now. It's a shame since it is a neat little .22
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Very glad I read this topic. My local gun shop has two P22's one in green and one in camo...they both look like they'd be fun to shoot, I guess I'll hold back and keep looking.
Maybe a nice 9 shot revolver.
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I've shot one extensively and my last thread indicated that the P22 should be melted down for plastic Army guys. I agree, for three hundred bucks you should get a little more quality in a .22 auto. I'm not too thrilled with any of Walther/S&W offerings of late.
I stand by my opinion, it's a turd... :P
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The p22 seem to be hit or miss. My grandfather has one that runs perfect, my cousin has one that won't go thru a mag with out a malfunction.
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I guess I've been fortunate. I bought the kit that contained both barrels. After several thousand rounds, I've only noted a couple of stoppages, and that was in the early going. The barrel weight had a proclivity to loosen after extended use, but that was solved with a bit of loctite.
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From what I'm hearing here it seems to depend on the manufacturer whether it's a gem or a turd.
By the way, did you know you really CAN polish a turd. Mythbusters or one of those shows did a piece on it, you have to compress it under high pressure to get the water out then use very fine abrasive. ;D
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From what I'm hearing here it seems to depend on the manufacturer whether it's a gem or a turd.
By the way, did you know you really CAN polish a turd. Mythbusters or one of those shows did a piece on it, you have to compress it under high pressure to get the water out then use very fine abrasive. ;D
Yes, but can you pick it up from the clean end? ;D
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Yes, but can you pick it up from the clean end? ;D
No, but you can pick it up by the SHINY end ;D
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No, but you can pick it up by the SHINY end ;D
Ladies and gentlemen.....my laugh for the day.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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ANYBODY who owns a P22:
Do a search on-line for the "P22 bible". You'll see exactly the problem discussed here, and how to fix it. Then you'll kick yourself for ever buying or shooting that gun before you read it. The guy that put the "bible" together deserves a million bucks for it!
Its a PDF you can save to your computer (hint). And its at "rimfirecentral.com" (SUPER site, great people on it!)
The much needed standard disclaimer though: To many people on this site "know" everything. And only reply if they see an oportunity to show off. So before they point it out... What I said is ALL WRONG!
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So you don't like this site???
I have had a P22 for several years. My oldest uses it a lot, and from the box count it has well over 5000 rounds through it. The only thing that I have ever done to it was stretch the extractor spring so it was a little better and throwing the cases off to the side. Yes my slide has the gouges, but as S&W said, it will stop doing it after a while. It was the only pistol out there that had a grip that was small enough. I may just buy another one as my next child wants to start shooting it and the older one won't give it up.. :) Or I could pony up for a bigger one.. hmm.
Yep, I am one of the positive guys. I know several others that got them and have had positive results as well.
-Bidah
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It's not that the site is bad at all! Or the gun.
I like the P22 a lot. The threaded barrel opens it up to easy addition of a silencer, and I've seen them fired with such. SUPER impressive to me! I even went shopping for one not long ago only to find their price inflated about $150 over what it was a few months prior to the election (same thing applies to ammo and everything gun related now). I think in another year the panic will settle down, and prices will creep back down (trying to be optomistic), so I held off on the purchase (ended up buying a great rifle I got a deal on instead). Having read the MANY reviews of this gun, WAY to many people have had slides crack in half and other SERIOUS problems to not read the "bible" on it, and make the modifications. If you can make the modifications prior to firing it at all, all the better! :)
The problem with the site. More than its share of ego maniacs. Spout off in defense of their opinions, not facts, not trying to help anyone, just blabbing. If more people can try to lend information and control their estrogen filled emotions, these sites are a GREAT asset to everyone, and we can all become a much smarter, better people (just my silly hopes for our country though). People who blow up on these sites in defense of their pet rifle of whatever, or spout like teenage girls with their emotions only show complete lack of control. Want to guess what the single most prominant thing is that'll get you killed in EVERY combat, home defense, self defense, situation???
Glad you like your gun. Lots of people get great service from them. I still believe 100% anybody with one could benefit from reading the "bible" that person took the time to make. He did an outstanding job making it! And the mods shown can really improve the weapon!
Leave your emotions at the door children. They benefit noone.
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The ones with the slide cracking are the ones with the extended barrel. That is one of the reasons that I got the regular short barrel. I do not remember the reason why this happens, but it has happened quite a bit at least in the internet forums.
Everything went, and still is, pretty nuts especially if it is a semi-auto, or a shotgun.
-Bidah
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I just ran about 300 rounds through mine. no sign of gouges yet :)