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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: bigkahuna07 on February 19, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
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I have recently decided to try and get my own handgun (or rifle) for self defense purposes and would like to get one that is cheap under 100 bucks but preferably between 50-70 dollars, I have had multiple muggings in my area and would like to be able to defend myself and would also like to get more accustomed to handguns and such with how I will be joining the military in a short while. I have always had an interest in guns and know how to use revolvers and bolt action rifles along with a bit of knowledge of the use of a 45. all thanks to my cousin and grandfather, another reason I want to get my own gun is because I would just like to get my first gun and start possibly collecting guns someday like my grandfather, I don't care about a gun being used I could clean it myself but repairing it is something I am still learning.
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WOW! Under 100 is TOUGH! Where are you located (state)?
Also look into getting a C&R license ($30.00 for 3 years). It allows you to buy older guns (typically over 50 years) and have them shipped to your house (no transfer fees).
If yo can go about $150.00 I personally own and recommend the HiPoint C-9 compact. You WILL hear bad things about it BUT ask if they own one. I do, I carry it and I have fired 2000 plus rounds with NO problems. Made in the USA with a LIFE TIME no questions warranty.
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Haz was kinder than I was planning to be - put a zero behind the numbers you quoted and you have an excellent slew of possibilities. For less than a hundred, I would not even want to fire something - this is one industry where you get what you pay for, up to a point. And with bho's election, the costs of everything have gone up.
Good luck, and hey, welcome to the forum. Gotta like a post that makes you think!
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I live in kansas and thanks for letting me know about the liscense I actually didn't know about that with no transfer fee that is not bad I myself had always wanted a 1911 colt but doubt I could get one of them cheap since most people who have them keep them and ain't exactly gonna get rid of them, can't blame them though it is an extremely good handgun.
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yeah the main reason I can't afford much at the moment is because of just how hard it is to get a job at the moment ( I have tried and failed) and with the fact that I have a very low amount of money coming in and no guarantee on getting much cash.
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here's a link to the HiPoint
http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/handguns/9%20mm/hi_point_9mm.html
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thanks the gun looks quite interesting and I will definitely look into getting one, also is there some kind of age requirement for the liscense and a concealed carry liscense I am 20 and am going to be 21 in july.
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That varies by state. You can buy it bit not sure about the carry license.
Look here and you should be able to find out.
http://www.gunlaws.com/links/
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thanks the gun looks quite interesting and I will definitely look into getting one, also is there some kind of age requirement for the liscense and a concealed carry liscense I am 20 and am going to be 21 in july.
I tend to see a lot of HiPoints in pawn shops, at least around here. They tend to be grossly overpriced, but at least the shop workers will haggle on the price. Try that route. Take someone you trust who knows guns to check it out for you so it doesn't go bang in your hand. Also, don't buy on your first trip, take the details down, go online, check out prices, then go back armed with knowledge.
I understand the job and money situation, I want to wish you the best of luck with getting that resolved quickly.
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thanks for the info it is greatly appreciated you know it is pretty bad when an american is pretty much required to carry a handgun because of all the gangbangers and punks out there trying to kill or rob the innocent so they can get a quick fix on drugs or something, one of the things that started all this is when one of my friends from high school went to walk his kids to a nearby dairy queen and it ended up with him getting mugged and then shot 3 times when some punk demanded for his wallet, he survived and won't go anywhere without his colt or glock anymore and definitely won't go out after 7 pm, this is a pretty ****** up world that we live in some times.
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thanks for the info it is greatly appreciated you know it is pretty bad when an american is pretty much required to carry a handgun because of all the gangbangers and punks out there trying to kill or rob the innocent so they can get a quick fix on drugs or something, one of the things that started all this is when one of my friends from high school went to walk his kids to a nearby dairy queen and it ended up with him getting mugged and then shot 3 times when some punk demanded for his wallet, he survived and won't go anywhere without his colt or glock anymore and definitely won't go out after 7 pm, this is a pretty ****** up world that we live in some times.
IF we stand up we can fix it!
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You can't even buy a Jimenez Arms pistol for that low of a price and that's probably the cheapest gun there is.
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yeah I know that, that is one reason I am joining the military not only for the experience but for the fact that just maybe by me fighting for my country I can try to make a difference, and who knows me fighting may make no difference but at least then I can say that I tried.
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yeah I know that, that is one reason I am joining the military not only for the experience but for the fact that just maybe by me fighting for my country I can try to make a difference, and who knows me fighting may make no difference but at least then I can say that I tried.
You'll make a difference, son. God bless you and keep you safe.
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that is what I hope, and I have just got the opportunity to get a glock or luger in a couple months which should I choose I have heard the glock is pretty good but I have also heard from some people that a luger is better.
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The Luger is more of a collector's item, not something to carry.
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Get the Glock ( I can't believe I just said that! )
Really, Lugers are 'cool' but a Glock is a modern, reliable weapon.
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the gun I chose was an old friends glock 17 it is used but I can work with that.
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Get something that you can sell, when you join the military you may not be able to keep it until you get to your first base, and if overseas maybe not even there. You definately cannot take it to Basic Training.
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Glocks seem to last forever, don't let the fact that it's used bother you, but get training in SD most ranges either have classes or can give you a contact to someone who does and some Police Dept's offer FREE classes.
Go here: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/#?st=KS
Must be 21 to buy a handgun in Ks, Open carry is OK
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Get the Glock ( I can't believe I just said that! )
Drink up Haz, drink up...... 8)
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Russian Nagant Revolver. 79 bucks out the door.
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/1059
Heard the trigger is rough but very reliable.
No pot metal either. If you can get to $200, your choices really improve.
Just my .02 cents.
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I was going to suggest J&G but NOT THE NAGANT ! In order to unload it, (If you use the proper ammo which is expensive ) you need a dowel and a hammer. It will shoot another caliber (.32 I THINK, not sure off the top of my head ) but it is not very powerful. Bear in mind that even with the full power loads it was designed for it was never good for any thing but target shooting (accurate as heck ) and shooting dissidents in the head from close range.
If you want a Target pistol get the Nagant, For defense get pretty much anything else.
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http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_Model_91_30_7_62x54R_Mosin_Nagant.html
No nothing about the weapon, but I'm sure the guys could fill you in. The ammo appears to be cheap as hell so that's a plus.
Good luck
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http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_Model_91_30_7_62x54R_Mosin_Nagant.html
No nothing about the weapon, but I'm sure the guys could fill you in. The ammo appears to be cheap as hell so that's a plus.
Good luck
I got a carbine version.... they are fun..... They are what the Russians used for sniper rifles during the war..... ballistically about the same as .308 or 30.06
You could deer hunt with them if you wanted, but the safety is a piece of junk and I would not trust it.
They are plentiful and can be found anywhere for about $70
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Lots of luck on under $100. Since you are going into the military, talk to your recruiter about becoming an armorer. You will get a lot of training and experience.
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Drink up Haz, drink up...... 8)
Rum and pepsi 80/20 (you guess which is 80 ;) )
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Rum and pepsi 80/20 (you guess which is 80 ;) )
No, Glock Kool Aid...... I hear it makes a nice mixer for a Hazarita
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http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_Model_91_30_7_62x54R_Mosin_Nagant.html
No nothing about the weapon, but I'm sure the guys could fill you in. The ammo appears to be cheap as hell so that's a plus.
Good luck
We're talking about the Nagant PISTOL, 7.62 Nagant cal. You can get a replacement cylinder in .32ACP.
The Nagant pistol was odd because the 7.62 Nagant has the bullet seated BELOW the level of the case mouth which extends past the front of the cylinder. On cocking the cylinder cams forward pressing the case mouth into the rear of the barrel forming a seal. (Hence the flaring of the case mouth that makes reloading such a bear ) The Nagant revolver was the only revolver that actually COULD be suppressed.but as stated earlier, even by 1895 standards , while quite accurate it was considered underpowered.
The 7.62 X54R RIFLE cartridge is STILL used in the Russian military in some machine guns and the SVD "Dragonov" sniper rifle.
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I was actually thinking about becoming an armorer when I joined the military due to the fact that I enjoy working with guns and the training will give me the info that I need to take it further who knows I might even choose it as a career but another choice I would choose when I join the military is the role of a sniper cause I have pretty good eyesight at long range and my marksmanship with rifles is pretty good at most ranges as long as it is a bolt action, I just simply prefer a bolt action rifle when shooting rifles thanks to their power and range and the rifle actually doesn't look half bad and might be a good buy, and I understand that I need to be 21 to buy the gun that is why I am waiting a while and by then who knows I might be in the military by then.
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I joined the army with my job guaranteed as a small arms repairman. Unit armorers brought weapons to me that they couldn't fix. The armorers were mostly clerks with little training on firearms. If you have a choice, make sure you choose the right job.
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Go for Small arms repairer, like Jumbo Frank says, unit armorer, (76Y) top out at E - 4 and doesn't do much more than basic maintenance. Sniper is very hard to get into and hardly ANY use in the civilian job market.
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When I was in the army you could go from E1 up to E-5 in small arms, 45B. After that if you were promoted to E-6 you had to go into 45K tank turret repair. 45L artillery repair was the same way. Once you got past E-5 you had to switch to 45K and learn a few more jobs. The good news it was all "guns" of one kind or another.