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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: long762range on February 22, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
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My Son just sent me this from Iraq.
In addition to communicating with the local Air Traffic Control facility, all aircraft in the Persian Gulf AOR are required to give the Iranian Air Defense Radar (military) a ten minute 'heads up' if they will be transiting Iranian airspace.
This is a common procedure for commercial aircraft and involves giving them your call sign, transponder code, type aircraft, and points of origin and destination.
I just flew with a guy who overheard this conversation on the VHF Guard (emergency) frequency 121.5 MHz while flying from Europe to Dubai . It's too good not to pass along.
The conversation went like this...
Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'
Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'
Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'
Air Defense Radar: (no response ... total silence)
;D
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Very Nice.
when you care enough to deploy the very best. 8)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/f-18.jpg)
Love to hear about an Iranian pilot that would love to "step up" and try his luck.
I think the 52 virgins would be laughing at him when he got to heaven. ;)
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Iranian airforce? When the hell did they teach camels to fly?
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I was emailed the same thing a month or so ago. It's probably a joke or made up story.
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Knowing fighter pilots...it just might be true.
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I was emailed the same thing a month or so ago. It's probably a joke or made up story.
My son sent it to me yesterday from Iraq.
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My son sent it to me yesterday from Iraq.
Well it didn't just happen yesterday, unless the same exact thing happened again.
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Point 1. Challenges are not broadcast on VHF Guard. And 121.5 MHz is not Guard in the sense being used here. 121.5 MHz is international distress, used by emergency beacons and such phisical devices not voice communications.
Point 2. You never identify yourself to that degree when initiating a challenge or responding to one. The correct response would of been something along the lines of "United States Aircraft" not specifically "United States Marine Corp F/A-18." When responding to a challenge you identify yourself only in the vaguest terms necessary.
Even on Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers, which even at many miles simply cannot be mistaken for anything else on the planet, refer to ourselves when responding to challenges only using the generic term "United States Warship."
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Who cares? If I was a pilot I'd buzz their freakin' tower singin' We The People. Jihad my ass.
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This is an unverified email that has been going around for a while. I've gotten it a few times. Funny, but probably not true
Point 1. Challenges are not broadcast on VHF Guard. And 121.5 MHz is not Guard in the sense being used here. 121.5 MHz is international distress, used by emergency beacons and such phisical devices not voice communications.
Actually, 121.5 IS a GUARD freq used by ATC to call aircraft to warn of airspace incursions. It is part of the Federal Aviation Regs (FAR) to be listening to VHF GUARD 121.5 when transitting near DC or any other Air Defense Zone (ADIZ) so ATC can tell you that you are headed somewhere you shouldn't. People NOT on that channel or the correct ATC channel is why they have cleared out the Capitol a few times.
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Iranian airforce? When the hell did they teach camels to fly?
You can't teach a camel to fly...they fly carpets and rugs. I hear that 125 thread count is a beast.
"Carpet one-five to command, I forgot my BB gun, what do I shoot with?"
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Long762Range,
Regardless of the circumstances, make sure you thank your son for me...and thank you for raising him!
Tim
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Long762Range,
Regardless of the circumstances, make sure you thank your son for me...and thank you for raising him!
Tim
Thanks man. I emailed him this morning and asked him where he got the story. His reply:
"Tell them its an anecdote, to laugh, and not to be so uptight."
My face is sooooo red. :o
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FWIW, I did laugh. ;D And I'd love to see the two air forces in action. 8)
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F 18's and F 35's versus OLD F -14's, Mirages and Migs ? It WOULD be a slaughter.
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The F-18 ain't exactly a "young" airframe but with modern avionics and strike capability, I think "Turkey Shoot" would be an understatement!
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It's a heck of a lot newer than Irans Tomcats. ;D
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All the crap that made the Tomcat good, Phoenix missile, them Iranian don't got. Not the mention their pilots are probably among the worst in the world, hell they may not get but a few hours flying a month. Not enough F-14 part to sustain an air force.
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It's a heck of a lot newer than Irans Tomcats. ;D
True, but the Tomcat is still pretty capable no matter who's flying em. Problem is, an F-18 can kill ya from way over the horizon and then some.....
Tom, ya seem pretty knowledgable about this stuff, has the F-35 seen any service yet?
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I know their IN service, I don't know if they have been used over seas yet. If they have it's only been for bombing missions.