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long762range

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Iranian Airspace
« on: February 22, 2009, 12:46:39 PM »
My Son just sent me this from Iraq.

In addition to communicating with the local Air Traffic Control facility, all aircraft in the Persian Gulf AOR are required to give the Iranian Air Defense Radar (military) a ten minute 'heads up' if they will be transiting Iranian airspace.

This is a common procedure for commercial aircraft and involves giving them your call sign, transponder code, type aircraft, and points of origin and destination.

 I just flew with a guy who overheard this conversation on the VHF Guard (emergency) frequency 121.5 MHz while flying from Europe to Dubai . It's too good not to pass along.

       

        The conversation went like this...

        Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.'

        Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.'

        Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!'

        Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!'

        Air Defense Radar: (no response ... total silence)


 ;D
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 04:46:55 PM »
Very Nice.

when you care enough to deploy the very best. 8)

Love to hear about an Iranian pilot that would love to "step up" and try his luck.

I think the 52 virgins would be laughing at him when he got to heaven. ;)
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 06:05:56 PM »
Iranian airforce?  When the hell did they teach camels to fly?
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 10:15:16 PM »
I was emailed the same thing a month or so ago. It's probably a joke or made up story.
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 10:30:20 PM »
Knowing fighter pilots...it just might be true.
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Re: Iranian Airspace
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 10:52:10 PM »
I was emailed the same thing a month or so ago. It's probably a joke or made up story.

My son sent it to me yesterday from Iraq.
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 11:03:41 PM »
My son sent it to me yesterday from Iraq.


Well it didn't just happen yesterday, unless the same exact thing happened again.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 07:34:12 AM »
Point 1. Challenges are not broadcast on VHF Guard. And 121.5 MHz is not Guard in the sense being used here. 121.5 MHz is international distress, used by emergency beacons and such phisical devices not voice communications.

Point 2. You never identify yourself to that degree when initiating a challenge or responding to one. The correct response would of been something along the lines of "United States Aircraft" not specifically "United States Marine Corp F/A-18." When responding to a challenge you identify yourself only in the vaguest terms necessary.

Even on Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers, which even at many miles simply cannot be mistaken for anything else on the planet, refer to ourselves when responding to challenges only using the generic term "United States Warship."


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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 07:53:18 AM »
Who cares? If I was a pilot I'd buzz their freakin' tower singin' We The People. Jihad my ass.
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Re: Iranian Airspace
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 09:18:15 AM »
This is an unverified email that has been going around for a while.  I've gotten it a few times.  Funny, but probably not true

Point 1. Challenges are not broadcast on VHF Guard. And 121.5 MHz is not Guard in the sense being used here. 121.5 MHz is international distress, used by emergency beacons and such phisical devices not voice communications.

 Actually, 121.5 IS a GUARD freq used by ATC to call aircraft to warn of airspace incursions.  It is part of the Federal Aviation Regs (FAR) to be listening to VHF GUARD 121.5 when transitting near DC or any other Air Defense Zone (ADIZ) so ATC can tell you that you are headed somewhere you shouldn't.  People NOT on that channel or the correct ATC channel is why they have cleared out the Capitol a few times.
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