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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on May 07, 2009, 08:58:25 AM
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http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/06/hawaii-passes-islam-day-law/
Hawaii’s state Senate overwhelmingly approved a bill Wednesday to celebrate “Islam Day” _ over the objections of a few lawmakers who said they didn’t want to honor a religion connected to Sept. 11, 2001.
…The resolution to proclaim Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day passed the Senate on a 22-3 vote. It had previously passed the House.
The bill seeks to recognize “the rich religious, scientific, cultural and artistic contributions” that Islam and the Islamic world have made.
Malkin notes:
There is, as far as I know, no “Christianity Day” designation in Hawaiian law, though the state did designate Good Friday a government holiday, which courts ruled was “primarily proposed to increase the frequency of legal holidays.”
No such rationale here.
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Now here IS a perfectl example of what the 3rd Amendment clearly prohibits!
Will it be challenged? My gues is probably not.
Will it be struck down if challenged? Once again, I think not! >:(
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Now here IS a perfectl example of what the 3rd Amendment clearly prohibits!
Will it be challenged? My gues is probably not.
Will it be struck down if challenged? Once again, I think not! >:(
I think you mean the 1st ammendment's prohibition on an "establishment of religion". The 3rd prohibits the quartering of troops in private homes.
FQ13
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I think you mean the 1st ammendment's prohibition on an "establishment of religion". The 3rd prohibits the quartering of troops in private homes.
FQ13
You are correct. I was looking at the original, proposed "Articles".
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Article
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Article [II]
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Article [III]
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Article [IV]
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sorry Haz, gotta rub it in ;D
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You are correct. I was looking at the original, proposed "Articles".
No worries, I teach this for a living and its still an even money bet if I remember what the 7th does if you give a pop quiz.
FQ13
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sorry Haz, gotta rub it in ;D
BUT as usual young padawan, you are incorrect.
Article the third [Amendment I]
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
http://www.constitution.org/billofr_.htm#04
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Try this version Haz, it's the one that actually passed. ;D
http://www.law.emory.edu/law-library/research/ready-reference/us-federal-law-and-documents/historical-documents-constitution-of-the-united-states.html
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Try this version Haz, it's the one that actually passed. ;D
http://www.law.emory.edu/law-library/research/ready-reference/us-federal-law-and-documents/historical-documents-constitution-of-the-united-states.html
Smart ass!
;D
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I think you mean the 1st ammendment's prohibition on an "establishment of religion". The 3rd prohibits the quartering of troops in private homes.
FQ13
Don't interupt the Cat ... Just like Bluto "He's on a roll." ;)
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What's the problem? Islam is a beautiful and peaceful religion, just ask the dudes that pulled off 9/11, oh that's right they are no longer with us.
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Try this version Haz, it's the one that actually passed. ;D
http://www.law.emory.edu/law-library/research/ready-reference/us-federal-law-and-documents/historical-documents-constitution-of-the-united-states.html
I prefer the King James version
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think they'll pass a 'tora, tora, tora' day? we already observe dec. 7th, but what would they think if someone proposed a day for 'celebrating' the Japanese attack on Hawaii? probably wouldn't go over too well. so why are we celebrating a religion that wants to kill us all?
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think they'll pass a 'tora, tora, tora' day? we already observe dec. 7th, but what would they think if someone proposed a day for 'celebrating' the Japanese attack on Hawaii? probably wouldn't go over too well. so why are we celebrating a religion that wants to kill us all?
Well said. Tolerate, yes. Be respectful towards, yes. Celebrate, hell no! Good manners is one thing, stupidity is another.
FQ13
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"Congress shall make..." didn't say anything about the Hawaiian legislature. Does that mean that NJ can celebrate "Roman Catholic Day" or maybe "Jewish Day"? Man....propose THAT and see how much s*** hits the fan!
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"Congress shall make..." didn't say anything about the Hawaiian legislature. Does that mean that NJ can celebrate "Roman Catholic Day" or maybe "Jewish Day"? Man....propose THAT and see how much s*** hits the fan!
It can. There's nothing unconstitutional about a designation day. Would SHTF, yep. >:(
FQ13
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Wasn't it incorporated?
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Wasn't it incorporated?
Yeah, but its a little more complicated. The standard is "an unreasonable entanglement with religion" or something very close to those words. Basically, if the state forces you to say, or listen to, a government approved prayer, or spends your tax dollars on relgious instruction, its a problem. If it passes a "We Like (choose your religion) Day, not so much as there is no coercion. This a slippery determination, but the standard is the "Rudolph Test" (no I'm not making that up). The deal is the state can't pay for a nativity scene in front of the courthouse. If however, they stick Rudolph, Frosty and a Menorah, next to it and call it a winter holiday display, its kosher. (I don't make the rules, I just report them).
FQ13
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Well now they done it,...
We'll have to have Ha're Khrishna Day, Moonies Day, Wiccan Day, Dope Smokin, Tree Huggin, Homosexual Day,
Rainbow Coalition Day,..... Etc,....etc,.....etc,......
Something in the water over there?
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"Dope Smokin, Tree Huggin, Homosexual Day,"
The 3 don't necessarily go together, I know several dope smoking loggers.
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"Dope Smokin, Tree Huggin, Homosexual Day,"
The 3 don't necessarily go together, I know several dope smoking loggers.
My bad to lump them all in one group. However, Chainsaws and bonghits just don;t go together....
I would hate to think I was "high" before reaching my hands into a 3 phase 480 volt panel.
Confession: Unlike Pres. Clinton back in the day I have inhaled. Lloyds testing, company policy with testing, and frankly boredom, made me give it all up in the late 80's.
But I do have my memories, and logging would seem tough,...
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"Dope Smokin, Tree Huggin, Homosexual Day,"
The 3 don't necessarily go together, I know several dope smoking loggers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg)
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Another classic example of state legislators not having anything important to do so they dream up these crucial pieces of legislation for "job justification" reasons. This to me is another reason for part time government. Work for 3 to 6 months and then go home to work real world jobs like the rest of us. It might give them a better grasp of reality.
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Most of the Machinists I've worked with and all but 1 of the welders smoked the evil weed, on the job, regularly.
As well as most of my co workers at T/C Arms.
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"Dope Smokin, Tree Huggin, Homosexual Day,"
The 3 don't necessarily go together, I know several dope smoking loggers.
Sorry... Just couldn't resist. ;)
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Another classic example of state legislators not having anything important to do so they dream up these crucial pieces of legislation for "job justification" reasons. This to me is another reason for part time government. Work for 3 to 6 months and then go home to work real world jobs like the rest of us. It might give them a better grasp of reality.
Government is supposed to be part time, but they keep their days filled with crap like this to #1 avoid the hard decisions that they should make, and #2 to make it a full time job so they don't have to go home and live with what they pass.
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Should be Sept 11th.
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Should be Sept 11th.
Thats an idea, then we can get rubber bullets from Israel for the Palestinian pinata ;D
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Anyone ever seen a violent pothead? As for Islam Day, it is an absolute disgrace. I could understand Buddhist Day in Hawaii with all the Japanese Tourists. What about a Samoan Day for the original locals of Hawaii? Do they have a Samoan Day?
Political correctness is going to be the downfall of the United States. We are becoming a modern day Sodom and Gamorrah (Sorry if spelling is off). Makes me sick that we are stomping all over the ideals that our Nation was founded on.
Not sure about you but I am getting sick of our leaders kissing ass to leaders who are anti-US. They have no respect for us/U.S., so why should we give them the time of day?
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It's time to amend the flag again - 49 states (we don't need that one chain of commie islands, never did!) Maybe they can become an extension of Islamaland. :)
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Political correctness is going to be the downfall of the United States. We are becoming a modern day Sodom and Gamorrah (Sorry if spelling is off). Makes me sick that we are stomping all over the ideals that our Nation was founded on.
it all ready is here in Aust.
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Everyone:
And just like Bluto B-Ho would love for us to believe the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. By the way, has B-Ho found that birth certificate yet?
JFK