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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: jaybet on May 22, 2009, 02:17:45 PM

Title: New Gun Tax
Post by: jaybet on May 22, 2009, 02:17:45 PM
Folks, this just came across my email at work. I have not had time to look into it, but I'm sure some of you will.
Subject: ??? WTF !!!....NOW THEY WANT TO TAX OWNERSHIP OF FIREARMS

They won't be able to take them away without a huge bloody firefight....so now there's a socialist movement to TAX them through the IRS tax system...

read this:
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/2nd-amendment-politics/8197-sb-2099-a.htm


ATTENTION... .........
Senate Bill SB-2099:
it will require that we put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own.
It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

This bill was introduced on Feb. 24th.
Bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it's voted into law.

This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986.
This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.

The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage, http://www.senate. gov/ <blockedhttp://www.senate.%20gov/>

You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number SB-2099.

You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.

Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know to help STOP this bill!!


I hope I'm not passing along a hoax...well, actually I kinda hope it IS a hoax.
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: Hazcat on May 22, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
SB-2099 - Bill Requiring Federal Tax on Guns
Take a grain of truth, sprinkle with false and misleading statements, add a heaping dollop of paranoia, and what do you have?
Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: Sep. 2000
Status: Outdated / False



http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091900a.htm
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: Rob10ring on May 22, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
I almost crapped myself, until I read Haz's post. It does seem like this would be political suicide at this time for any politico who'd go along with it. The trend is that more people are accepting the second.

This would be an overt infringement of the second amendment. Particularly, for those with less money - "I can't afford to defend myself, because of the tax burden". That might call for a tea party that would stay in the history books.
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: Timothy on May 22, 2009, 03:52:13 PM
For future reference any bill started by the house will have a prefix of "H.R." and from the Senate "S." followed by the number of the bill.

....H.R.2099 or S.2099...some are joint bills and have another type of prefix see attached... 

http://senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/three_column_table/number_prefix.htm
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: pops1911 on May 22, 2009, 04:44:35 PM
Gee - They have a system???

I could find no info on the referenced Senate Bill - with or without the correct prefix. What I did find was interesting from the House: HR 2202 - A bill to allow a credit on taxes for purchasing a safe to store your guns. Could be good, but I'd rather they had no clue what or when I bought my safe etc. None of their business!!!
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 22, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Gee - They have a system???

I could find no info on the referenced Senate Bill - with or without the correct prefix. What I did find was interesting from the House: HR 2202 - A bill to allow a credit on taxes for purchasing a safe to store your guns. Could be good, but I'd rather they had no clue what or when I bought my safe etc. None of their business!!!
Then don't claim the deduction. This is the kind of federal reg I like (sort of). An incentive to do the right thing, like securing your weapons buying energy effecient appliences etc, that doesn't MAKE you do it or penalize you if you don't. I'm still not pro-reg, but as far as they go, this one isn't too bad.
FQ13
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: twyacht on May 22, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
Then don't claim the deduction. This is the kind of federal reg I like (sort of). An incentive to do the right thing, like securing your weapons buying energy effecient appliences etc, that doesn't MAKE you do it or penalize you if you don't. I'm still not pro-reg, but as far as they go, this one isn't too bad.
FQ13

Shaking head in stunned amazement,.......

Why does big brother need to do this? Coming from your Libertarian point of view, I thought this (false or whatever), would have you crying BS!

Don;t need to give them any ideas....



Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on May 22, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
SB-2099 - Bill Requiring Federal Tax on Guns
Take a grain of truth, sprinkle with false and misleading statements, add a heaping dollop of paranoia, and what do you have?
Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: Sep. 2000
Status: Outdated / False



http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091900a.htm

Thanks brother!
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: jaybet on May 23, 2009, 09:11:11 AM
Thanks, Haz! This did come from a buddy of mine who is pretty paranoid. I'll have to suggest that he check things out more before passing them on.
I am SO busy...that takes care of my 5 minutes of DRTV today.
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: long762range on May 23, 2009, 09:26:05 AM
Snopes says it is false too.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 23, 2009, 09:44:48 AM
Thanks, Haz! This did come from a buddy of mine who is pretty paranoid. I'll have to suggest that he check things out more before passing them on.
I am SO busy...that takes care of my 5 minutes of DRTV today.

Glad you are busy, sorry you can't stay and play longer  ;D
Title: Re: New Gun Tax
Post by: Timothy on May 23, 2009, 09:45:12 AM
Another thing to consider that Article 1, Section 8 doesn't allow the feds to collect this type of tax and the 16th Ammendent doesn't either.

This type of tax, regardless of who authorized it could be challenged I would think.  The NRA would be all over this in a heartbeat.