Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on June 17, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 17, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
And the "Asshat of the Day" award goes to..........
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92681?fp=1
A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma by Mike Krumboltz
For teens, there is no greater joy than graduating high school. Shaking off the shackles of education and claiming that hard-fought diploma is truly an epic day. Unfortunately, for several students at Bonny Eagle High School in Maine, their natural exuberance has led to some surprisingly serious problems.
On Friday night, when the senior class was waiting to graduate, excitement began to grow. Students bounced a large inflatable rubber duck. The noise level rose. And then came "the kiss." When called, one student walked on stage to receive his diploma and blew a kiss to his family. The school administrator, clearly not the sentimental sort, sent the student back to his seat ... sans diploma.
The seemingly harsh punishment has sent the Web all aflutter. Searches on "student denied diploma" and "bonny eagle high school" are both through the roof. Additionally, blogs and news papers are chiming in with opinions on whether or not the administration overreacted. The student's mother has given interviews and is quite upset at her son's treatment. According to an article from Fox News the outraged mother said, "A bow, a kiss to your mom is not misbehavior."
But the administrators feel they were just enforcing the rules that students agreed to. At a meeting following the debacle, school superintendent Suzanne Lukas said that "if a student doesn't adhere to the expectations, then the consequences are clearly spelled out."
This isn't the first time that rambunctious (dare we say "fun"?) behavior affected a graduation ceremony at Bonny Eagle. "Four years ago we had some issues with silly string and beach balls," said Lukas.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Hazcat on June 17, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Typical "Zero Intelligence" policy BS.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: blackwolfe on June 17, 2009, 11:52:44 AM
I have seen some graduation ceremonies celebrations get out of hand. There were streakers at my HS graduation. This seems tame and I think the administrator went over board for this kid acknowledging and honoring his family with a blown kiss. As time passes, what will be remembered is the administrator withholding the diploma. Had he just let it go, the kiss would be largly forgotten by most there.
As a side note I believe the law in Michigan states that once a student earns the credits necessary for graduation the school cannot withhold a diploma. At least that's what it was many years ago when some seniors set off a pipe bomb in the school at the end of the year. They were in legal trouple, but as much as people in the community thought they should not receive their diplomas the school said legally they couldn't withold it. You can stop them from graduation ceremonies though.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 17, 2009, 12:43:29 PM
After attending one of the little brothers graduation the other day, I can say that I'd agree with the administrator. Reading the article from another source, they described the student as not only blowing a kiss, but holding up the event with other disruptive behavior. Not like he doesn't get his high school diploma, he just didn't get to walk. Kids need to cut the crap and get with the program, learn to control yourself in public life ain't just one big game. For some students that's as far as they'll go and its a big day for them and their families not some party.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 17, 2009, 02:18:25 PM
This was in Sanford Me, next town over from where I used to live, Just goes to prove there are a lot of ass hats in Me., Look at Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: JC5123 on June 17, 2009, 03:03:38 PM
After attending one of the little brothers graduation the other day, I can say that I'd agree with the administrator. Reading the article from another source, they described the student as not only blowing a kiss, but holding up the event with other disruptive behavior. Not like he doesn't get his high school diploma, he just didn't get to walk. Kids need to cut the crap and get with the program, learn to control yourself in public life ain't just one big game. For some students that's as far as they'll go and its a big day for them and their families not some party.
Yes, it is. And guess what, there are winners and losers. And not everybody gets a place at the "adult" table. And if the screwell systems were teaching these principles about the realities of life, we'd probably see a lot less of this kind of behavior! Personally, I think graduation is an appropriate place for subdued celebration, but we have seen what bureau bone heads school administrators have become.
You're right it is a big day. These kids have put 18 years of their lives in to get there. Let them be excited about the achievement and have some much deserved fun after working so hard.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: brosometal on June 17, 2009, 08:19:22 PM
School Admin's are about as useless as a certain body part on bulls (sorry ladies). They consume more $$$ and educate less. Most educational systems are top heavy with people who couldn't teach so they were told to tell others to teach.
In the interest of full disclosure, I have a particular bone to pick. My mom has been a teacher in both private and government schools and has had to interact with said asshats on a regular basis. Along with that, I had a run in my junior year with the same folks as did my sister 6 years later. I was suspended for 5 days for an incident that happened off campus and had my academic record tarnished because of ignorant policies. My sister was suspended for dyeing her hair. It was deemed a "distraction". Now mind you, at the same time an athlete wrecked a stolen a car while he was been chased by the authorities. As you can probably surmise, he had no issues other that the legal ones.
Admin and asshat both start with "A". Coincidence? I think not.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Rastus on June 18, 2009, 09:00:18 PM
We all know that if the student (he) had been blowing a kiss to another he, there would be no foul. As the somewhat pissy Brosometal (still sore about that, eh buddy?) has said, school admins are as useless as.... They don't want parents exercising any control over students that THEY want to control.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: blackwolfe on June 19, 2009, 01:31:34 AM
School Admin's are about as useless as a certain body part on bulls (sorry ladies). They consume more $$$ and educate less. Most educational systems are top heavy with people who couldn't teach so they were told to tell others to teach.
In the interest of full disclosure, I have a particular bone to pick. My mom has been a teacher in both private and government schools and has had to interact with said asshats on a regular basis. Along with that, I had a run in my junior year with the same folks as did my sister 6 years later. I was suspended for 5 days for an incident that happened off campus and had my academic record tarnished because of ignorant policies. My sister was suspended for dyeing her hair. It was deemed a "distraction". Now mind you, at the same time an athlete wrecked a stolen a car while he was been chased by the authorities. As you can probably surmise, he had no issues other that the legal ones.
Admin and asshat both start with "A". Coincidence? I think not.
Not sure what your incident was but my local school system does have some discipline rules for off campus, off hours behavior. If arrested, or caught for drugs or alcohol you are suspended from extra ciricular activities such as sports, cheerleading, band etc. I believe it is at a minumum for the rest of that quarter. There have been some star players suspended. One dumb jock got suspended several times so his parents got him an apparment in the neighboring school distict and he messed up there also. The one time I didn't think this was a "fair" policy was when a report got back to the school about a teen party with alcohol. Some how the school ended up with a list of names and little other proof. When they talked to the kids, those that admitted to it were suspended from their activities and those that lied and said they were not drinking got off.
Things sure are different from when I was in school. Back then jocks and the rich kids got away with everything. Nowadays sometimes I don't think we let kids be kids enough.
Title: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on June 19, 2009, 09:03:05 AM
After attending one of the little brothers graduation the other day, I can say that I'd agree with the administrator. Reading the article from another source, they described the student as not only blowing a kiss, but holding up the event with other disruptive behavior. Not like he doesn't get his high school diploma, he just didn't get to walk.
I call a big BS! I don't see any thing here that warrants what the bitch administrator did to him.. There is so much outrage on this that their servers have crashed.
I think that O-dumbo would be proud. His socialistic people's regime has started! Man this pisses me straight off! If I was that mom , I would have wanted to smack her good!! >:(
Bonny Eagle High School 700 Saco Road Standish, ME 04084 207 - 929 - 3840 Principal, Beth Schultz bschultz@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal, Lori Napolitano lnapolitano@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal, Kevin Harrington kharrington@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal/ Activities Director, Mike LeGage mlegage@sad6.k12.me.us
Central Office Mailing Address: P.O. Box 38, Bar Mills, ME 04004 Address: 100 Main Street Buxton, Maine 04093 929-3831 642-2480 Superintendent of Schools Suzanne Lukas, suzanne_lukas@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9108 Assistant Superintendent of Schools Carol Weeks, carol_weeks@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9101 Assistant Superintendent of Finance and Operations Rick Matthews, rick_matthews@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9146
all numbers are 207 area code.
I'm going to let them know what I think of their stupidity.
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: DaverZ on June 19, 2009, 12:15:52 PM
imo its all crap,the only way i would have agreed with the adminaster is if the kid turned around,dropped his pants and blew a kiss from that end,otherwise he was okj.were'nt they ever kids? sheesh
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 19, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
imo its all crap,the only way i would have agreed with the adminaster is if the kid turned around,dropped his pants and blew a kiss from that end,otherwise he was okj.were'nt they ever kids? sheesh
No, I think they've always been self important assholes.
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 19, 2009, 04:01:45 PM
I call a big BS! I don't see any thing here that warrants what the bitch administrator did to him.. There is so much outrage on this that their servers have crashed.
I think that O-dumbo would be proud. His socialistic people's regime has started! Man this pisses me straight off! If I was that mom , I would have wanted to smack her good!! >:(
Bonny Eagle High School 700 Saco Road Standish, ME 04084 207 - 929 - 3840 Principal, Beth Schultz bschultz@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal, Lori Napolitano lnapolitano@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal, Kevin Harrington kharrington@sad6.k12.me.us
Assistant Principal/ Activities Director, Mike LeGage mlegage@sad6.k12.me.us
Central Office Mailing Address: P.O. Box 38, Bar Mills, ME 04004 Address: 100 Main Street Buxton, Maine 04093 929-3831 642-2480 Superintendent of Schools Suzanne Lukas, suzanne_lukas@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9108 Assistant Superintendent of Schools Carol Weeks, carol_weeks@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9101 Assistant Superintendent of Finance and Operations Rick Matthews, rick_matthews@sad6.k12.me.us 929-9146
all numbers are 207 area code.
I'm going to let them know what I think of their stupidity.
To veer off topic for just a moment. Did anybody else think the on-scene reporter had a perfectly descriptive surname? Keith Baldi, I couldn't help but notice, was AWFULLY thin on top. ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on June 19, 2009, 04:45:20 PM
My god TT! What are you doing!! We are in the middle of a heated crisis here and all you can see and notice is a bald head? ::) ::)
Jezzzzseeee... you and Marshal need to go hole up together... That is the kind of stuff he does and says.. and might I add.. right in the middle of a great argument we are having.. ( of which I am always a winner.. )
Just makes you stop dead in your shoes and say...."WTF?"
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: tt11758 on June 19, 2009, 05:00:33 PM
My god TT! What are you doing!! We are in the middle of a heated crisis here and all you can see and notice is a bald head? ::) ::)
Jezzzzseeee... you and Marshal need to go hole up together... That is the kind of stuff he does and says.. and might I add.. right in the middle of a great argument we are having.. ( of which I am always a winner.. )
Just makes you stop dead in your shoes and say...."WTF?"
I got news for you, Teresa, it's DESIGNED to make you stop dead in your shoes and say...."WTF?!?" ;D
Men are dumb, but we are not so dumb.
One other thing. The wife ALWAYS has the last word in an argument, because anything the husband says after that is the start of another argument. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 19, 2009, 05:13:24 PM
Probably being the only one here who's been to high school in the last 15 or 20 years, ;D, cutting kids slack for this type of behavior is exactly whats wrong with today's education system. Kids get away with everything in school, you name it and they've done it, been proud of it, and threw it in the school system's face. Kids need to cut the crap, I can only slap the hell outta my brothers, not the entire nation's youth, so they need to be stopped. And yes, I know, 'he was only blowing a kiss', that kind enablement leads to alot of your problems in school, I saw it first had not too long ago. And your average high school kids is out of control because they know any punishment will be deemed 'disproportionate' and you can't whoop kids in school these days.
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: shooter32 on June 19, 2009, 05:17:28 PM
Probably being the only one here who's been to high school in the last 15 or 20 years, ;D, cutting kids slack for this type of behavior is exactly whats wrong with today's education system. Kids get away with everything in school, you name it and they've done it, been proud of it, and threw it in the school system's face. Kids need to cut the crap, I can only slap the hell outta my brothers, not the entire nation's youth, so they need to be stopped. And yes, I know, 'he was only blowing a kiss', that kind enablement leads to alot of your problems in school, I saw it first had not too long ago. And your average high school kids is out of control because they know any punishment will be deemed 'disproportionate' and you can't whoop kids in school these days.
Hell damn near 30yrs
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 19, 2009, 05:19:16 PM
You might want to watch your step, there, whippersnapper. There's a lot more of us old farts hereabouts than there are of you young punks. And never forget, youth and strength are no match for experience and dirty fighting. ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 19, 2009, 05:34:52 PM
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Probably being the only one here who's been to high school in the last 15 or 20 years,
Make that 30+ for me, youngun!!!
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 19, 2009, 05:40:16 PM
You might want to watch your step, there, whippersnapper. There's a lot more of us old farts hereabouts than there are of you young punks. And never forget, youth and strength are no match for experience and dirty fighting. ;D
Don't worry, I'm usually the youngest where ever I am, work, school, what ever. So I've got to use my smart assness to match ya'lls crankiness. And if it makes ya'll feel better, it makes me feel better about the prospect of getting old, 'Cherish youth, but trust old age.' And when a young person gets in trouble they don't go to another young person for advise, probably cause they're the ones that f$#@ things up to begin with. So you old guys are all right, no matter how admittedly out of touch you may be. ;) But you all wrong on this, and I'm right. I should know, I'm young and therefore infallible, ahahahhahahahah!!! ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: blackwolfe on June 19, 2009, 06:06:01 PM
Many of us have been out of high school longer than you've been on this earth. Your parents may have been a glimmer in your grandparents eye.
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 19, 2009, 07:04:22 PM
What up? Not forever you won't be. Just look around in a couple of years. ;D
I've been saying that for four years and its yet to happen. Am I the cut off age for working or what, 'everyone after 2005 just chill and take it easy.'
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Rastus on June 19, 2009, 07:21:16 PM
Its actually for you old fellas. ;D Save a bundle on renting a back hoe.
I don't know about where you are, but around here you may dig one but you will rent a backhoe for ALL of them after that, ground around here is so rocky you need Dynamite to bury dogshit.
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Pathfinder on June 19, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
Just having fun pressing buttons. You fellas are all right.
Young, Friday night...and you are sittin' around pushin' our buttons with all them Texas women around liken' on that there avatar of yours or somebodies from Texas?
Wrong buttons young feller... ;)
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 19, 2009, 07:54:32 PM
Young, Friday night...and you are sittin' around pushin' our buttons with all them Texas women around liken' on that there avatar of yours or somebodies from Texas?
Wrong buttons young feller... ;)
Now that ain't fair, I'm working now, but hell, this argument is unwinnable. Check mate, I slap board across the room, and slam the door behind me! ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Timothy on June 19, 2009, 07:55:41 PM
I don't know about where you are, but around here you may dig one but you will rent a backhoe for ALL of them after that, ground around here is so rocky you need Dynamite to bury dogshit.
New Hampshire state flower is granite! Right Tom? ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Very Costly Kiss: Senior Denied Diploma
Post by: Rastus on June 19, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
Sir, was that aimed at me? And that isn't till next Sat.
Back to the original topic, If you are academically qualified to receive a diploma, you get one. If you get in trouble, I can understand losing the privilege of after school activities, but don't punish someone academically for a "behavioral" problem. That's what was done in my case. Asshattery plain and simple.
In this case, lawyer up and see the roaches run like the light got turned on.