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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: speckfise721 on July 23, 2009, 11:47:05 PM
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i dont know anything about these two 30-30's. if anyone knows a little of them, any info would be appreciated
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I've had 2 of the Marlin 336-RCs. Excellent little rifles. You can't shoot fast, they heat up affecting accuracy, but no complaints here. I was able to hit 200 yards standing offhand with no problems.
I had a scope put on my first one, and loved it as a ranch rifle. Dropped a lot of vermin and 3 buffalo with that gun.
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I was looking at them about six months ago. Went with the Marlin because it had better wood and seemed a bit more solid.
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How does winchester 94 stack up in the 30-30 comparison?
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I like Winchester 94s. That was THE deer rifle for a long time. My dad hunted with one for decades and didn't have any problems with it.
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I have a Winchester 94 and it shoots just fine and handles well.
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I like Winchesters and have one. A lot of guys like Marlins. Seems they can be very accurate and sometimes some great wood on them. If I were getting a new one for hunting and there was a good chance of foul weather I'd look at the stainless ones. The 30-30 is fine for deer and black bears and ammo is readily avaiable and relatively cheap. If you wanted somthing with a little moor punch I'd look at .35 Remington. A lot more punch I'd look at .45-70 which you can load from mild to wild. I'd lke to have one in either caliber.
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There is a winchester 94 in my future inheritance...that is why i asked. I get my Dads safe and everything in it when he passes (hopefully a long time from now as i consider him my best friend.) I never got to fire his winchester growing up...so i thought i woudl ask your opinion.
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Of course, the Winchester.. I had to get another one after the need for funds during my divorce cost me my 1894-1994 Anniversary Edition. (still kicking myself)...
This is the new one.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/30-30001.jpg)
Marlin's are fine, fine rifles. Personal choice speckfise721, don't know enough about the Mossberg to qualify a response.
My .02 cents between the two, would be the Marlin, and than get a 12g Mossberg 500. They make a great shotgun.
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Winchesters are OK, but not Scope friendly. (top eject ) Marlins been making their lever gun nearly as long as Winchester, with out many changes, and it's SIDE ejecting so it works better with a scope. Mossberg ejects from the top right, I don't know how that works out.
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Wincheseter switched from straight up top ejection to angle eject probably 20-30 years ago. They're pre-drilled for scope mounts too so it should be easy to mount a scope. I don't have a scope on mine because it's out of place on a 16" Trapper barrel. I have a Williams peep sight instead.
Marlin is good too but I'm not sure about Mossberg.
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Your right Frank, and welcome back home Pal.
It was about 1964 when Winchester moved the ejection port to the top right corner of the receiver to make scope mounting easier. Prior to that you knew you had an older one when the spent case ended up on the rim of your Fedora....
Great old guns. Kittery had several last week but I passed. One was original with a scope side mounted to the left because of the ejection port.
Anyone know who's actually making the current Winchester line of lever guns? I know they say Winchester, but is that true?
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Howdy Tim.
According to wikipedia -
A New Era
On August 15, 2006, Olin Corporation, owner of the Winchester trademarks, announced that it had entered into a new license agreement with Browning to make Winchester brand rifles and shotguns, though not at the closed Winchester plant in New Haven. Browning, based in Morgan, Utah, and the former licensee, U.S. Repeating Arms Company, are both subsidiaries of FN Herstal. In 2008 FN Herstal announced that it would produce Model 70 rifles at its plant in Columbia, SC.
Before that FN owned Winchester and Browning for 15 years.
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Thanks Frank,
Olin used to make some great skis and FN makes some fine firearms so the new Winnies should be pretty good shooters which is their heritage.
Lets hope they live up to the old Oliver Winchester and Mr. Henry's legacy...
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You may be mis understanding that, The model 70 is coming back, NOT the model 94
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You may be mis understanding that, The model 70 is coming back, NOT the model 94
Crap..... ??? :'( :'( :'(
Well, I'll just have to keep looking for an old one. Might could have to make another run up K'ttry way. I always have the Puma/Rossi/Chippawa option too...
The '92 on their site is pretty sweet but 800-900 bucks ain't in the budget. Not out of the question but that would cost me way too many favors... :(
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That was why Mossberg came out with the 464, they bought the rights from Winchester.
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I guess I'll just have to buy an 1885 low wall instead of a '94. ;)
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I guess I'll just have to buy an 1885 low wall instead of a '94. ;)
There you go ! A guy I know has one in 45/70 it's ridiculously accurate once you figure out how much to hold over at 500 yards. {he reloads for it with Blackpowder, recoil is fairly mild )
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There you go ! A guy I know has one in 45/70 it's ridiculously accurate once you figure out how much to hold over at 500 yards. {he reloads for it with Blackpowder, recoil is fairly mild )
There's a Non-Catalog page online that has 1895s and 92s too. http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/category.asp?cat=014C
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I like the TR commemorative ;D
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All the non-catalog Winchesters are 3X what I want to spend. So I'm back to Marlin vs. Mossberg again, and I know squat about the Mossy.
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All the non-catalog Winchesters are 3X what I want to spend. So I'm back to Marlin vs. Mossberg again, and I know squat about the Mossy.
I've seen one, never handled it or shot it. Just for that reason I would go with the Marlin.
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I've seen one, never handled it or shot it. Just for that reason I would go with the Marlin.
Wow, back on topic without poking or prodding. Wonder of wonders, miracles of miracles!!!!!
And what Tom said - go with the Marlin, you won't go wrong.
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Tom, Isn't the 45-70 a high wall?
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Tom, Isn't the 45-70 a high wall?
Now that you pin me down I have no idea, it was a "something" Wall, I thought he said Low wall. I know the difference but I don't remember which this was.
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They still make a 45-110
http://muzzleloadingandmore.com/products/rifles/sharps_rifles/index.htm
Sure it weighs 13+ pounds, but when you REALLY need to knock it down,....you send the very best...
The 1874 "Boss" scroll down to the link, ONLY $2250.00 :P
It only takes one round anyway... :o
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I prefer the 336 because mounting scopes is fast and with lever evolution ammo a 30-30 becomes a real show stopper.
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My Marlin 336c in.30-30 is the go to rifle for gun hunting right now. It has a Ghost Ring rear sight and a post front sight which I replaced the dovetail and hood sights for. I like the rear site closer to my eye. Last year I shot a 4 point blacktail running right to left at about 20 yards and dropped him with one shot (that'd be a 8 pointer to you whitetail hunters), a 3 point blacktail at about 80 yards standing broadside, and a nice hog at 100 yards. Dumped all three of them. 6+1 capacity gives a decent amount of shots available. Just a good, solid rifle.
Don't know anything about Mossberg.
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They still make a 45-110
http://muzzleloadingandmore.com/products/rifles/sharps_rifles/index.htm
Sure it weighs 13+ pounds, but when you REALLY need to knock it down,....you send the very best...
The 1874 "Boss" scroll down to the link, ONLY $2250.00 :P
It only takes one round anyway... :o
More drift......
Quigley .45-110 ..........I really want one.......
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0012654213902a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=sharps+rifle&sort=all&Go.y=0&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1
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Did you buy anything yet? Still searching after 6-7 years? OK...not funny... ;)
I'd go with the Mossberg 464 SPX!
http://www.mossberg.com/product/464-spx-centerfire-lever-action-rifle-41026/ (http://www.mossberg.com/product/464-spx-centerfire-lever-action-rifle-41026/)
I'm just sayin'.......