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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: ericire12 on August 07, 2009, 09:06:18 AM
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http://www.downrange.tv/artman2/publish/industry/496.shtml
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They make specialized and expensive guns and parts. I don't see a connection to the bubble, just high end.
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They make specialized and expensive guns and parts. I don't see a connection to the bubble, just high end.
Yep.... thats why they are the first to be affected..... gun makers will be next...... then ammo manufacturers. The boom is over.
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Not only high end but they JUST jumped on the band wagon. I think Daniel's waited just a bit to long, I think Ruger caught the end of the bubble, though that remains to be seen.
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I'm not ready to say the bubble has burst yet. With economics like they are there is going to be a shifting in buying and choices. However, when you talk to dealer and big box idiots you hear that the sales are still up. I am hearing more thought going into things rather than just taking what is available ... and this is a good thing.
I believe that as things improve, whenever they improve, and as more of the true BHO/Pelosi/Clinton regim shows itself sales will increase again.
The answer to things flowing again is that just as one company increases deliveries another runs short, and these improved supplies are very short lived. Scheels HAD a tremendous amount of ammo on hand last month, and their gun sales people that love to bash gun owners bragged about how the hoarders ran out of money and now we'll have too much ammo on the shelves. Guess what ... two weeks later that "glut" was mostly gone, and they don't know when they will see anymore. They were up on the list for a large shipment, it came through, and now they are back on the bottom of the pile.
Just like the DC mess, This ain't over yet!
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IMHO, the ammo shortages are affecting gun sales. As ammo supplies get back to normal, I believe that gun sales will go back up. The newbies to the shooting world figure; "why buy a gun if I can't get ammo?"
Sales to first time buyers were a large part of the increased sales following BHOs election. I have heard several potential buyers complain about the ammo shortage and state that it is putting off their decision to buy.
Just a thought.
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IMHO, the ammo shortages are affecting gun sales. As ammo supplies get back to normal, I believe that gun sales will go back up. The newbies to the shooting world figure; "why buy a gun if I can't get ammo?"
Sales to first time buyers were a large part of the increased sales following BHOs election. I have heard several potential buyers complain about the ammo shortage and state that it is putting off their decision to buy.
Just a thought.
You make a valid point. I passed on a 1911 a couple of months ago and bought a .40 instead, simply because at that point in time I wasn't prepared to spend $700 for a paperweight.
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Glut over or not, where the heck are all the guns sold hiding? In MI I rarely saw any more people at the ranges than there were years ago. Indoor or outdoor. DNR guys told me hunting license sales only climbed very slightly. I saw even less people actually going each year. ???
Drop a grand on a semi-auto, hoard a couple thousand rounds of ammo, and??? Hide it all under the bed to rust up and never to see light of day again? :( :( :(
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Glut over or not, where the heck are all the guns sold hiding? In MI I rarely saw any more people at the ranges than there were years ago. Indoor or outdoor. DNR guys told me hunting license sales only climbed very slightly. I saw even less people actually going each year. ???
Drop a grand on a semi-auto, hoard a couple thousand rounds of ammo, and??? Hide it all under the bed to rust up and never to see light of day again? :( :( :(
I'm not going to the range any more than I used to, and most people don't notice a change in what I take or don't take ... Can you acount for the guns I've purchased. When I take a new shooter to the range and we take four guns ... Are they mine that I always bring, his new ones, a combination or new guns to me?
By the way, I do think that many of the new first time buyers do have their guns just sitting in the closet collecting dust.
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I walked into the local Mom & Pop gun store last week, and stopped short - the AR rack was full to overflowing, and the AK rack had all sorts of really interesting pieces. So, yeah, I think the glut is over. That and the $100 stripped lowers that are being advertised.
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Until Bama starts talking publicly about banning this and that, I think the next few weeks are the time to buy. Store shelves are filling back up, and prices ARE falling. Big chain stores like Bass Pro are dropping prices back down to pre glut levels on most item's. Right now everybodies pre-occupied with health care worries. When this passes we'll see what he screws up next. Gun rights? Most likely. And the glut will be in full flow again. Even if you have everything you want. Buy now, sell later!
I'd guess we've all had people bring us guns to "look at, & see if we could clean up" that they found in houses, purchased 10 years ago and forgot they owned, were left to them by relatives, or whatever. You can bet we'll see many, many more in the future. Guess its better than them not owning one at all... Maybe. :-\
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My hope is that if theystart banning away again like in the 94 assault weapons ban, they dont limit private transfer. There is no way in teh financial situation i am in that i can afford to buy any firearms, probably for the next year. But with this many ARs now out in teh general population, getting one should be easy as long as they dont screw with private transfers...
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My hope is that if theystart banning away again like in the 94 assault weapons ban, they dont limit private transfer. There is no way in teh financial situation i am in that i can afford to buy any firearms, probably for the next year. But with this many ARs now out in teh general population, getting one should be easy as long as they dont screw with private transfers...
There is no legal or moral imperative to obey unjust or unconstitutional laws.
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I think the glut may be over too. However, if the politicians continue to push the health care issue and use union thugs and ACORN operatives to beat up and silence people at meetings sales may begin to zoom. The way the country is being handled is becoming more and more a concern at a grass roots level and Chicago style politics may cause another increase in gun buying.
What would you do at a meeting if three or four big guys came over to rough you up?
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OH BOY are you opening a can o worms!
Just make sure people see them hit you at least once first!
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"What would you do at a meeting if three or four big guys came over to rough you up?"
At least one of them would get kicked in the nuts. I am not a "pushy" person, but I will push BACK, HARD.
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I think the glut may be over too. However, if the politicians continue to push the health care issue and use union thugs and ACORN operatives to beat up and silence people at meetings sales may begin to zoom. The way the country is being handled is becoming more and more a concern at a grass roots level and Chicago style politics may cause another increase in gun buying.
What would you do at a meeting if three or four big guys came over to rough you up?
What was the screening process to get in? Do I still have my tactical light? Do I have space to maneuver and maintain distance? What happens when I attempt to maintain distance and shout to raise awareness in the room? Do I still have my 1911?
Badger - This is where the "reasonable man" ruling gets interesting. If a 160 lb thug comes at me the court would tear me apart for over reacting. But, could my attorney build a defense around four men of any size confronting me and ignoring my requests and demands to stay back? And as in so many other situations, this is not black and white ... unless they follow you're lead, after exhausting other options how do they react to your draw?
Situational awareness!
The sad part is that if we avoid meetings because of this threat, they have already won. I remember learning of mob tactics used by the mafia and unions to gain their way in a legal looking manor ... Is this any different if it happens?
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I think the glut may be over too. However, if the politicians continue to push the health care issue and use union thugs and ACORN operatives to beat up and silence people at meetings sales may begin to zoom. The way the country is being handled is becoming more and more a concern at a grass roots level and Chicago style politics may cause another increase in gun buying.
What would you do at a meeting if three or four big guys came over to rough you up?
If it happens in Texas, I'll shoot the f%$kers. I will be carrying as I am every time that I walk out my door.
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If it happens in Texas, I'll shoot the f%$kers. I will be carrying as I am every time that I walk out my door.
There is that ;D