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Title: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 14, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_politics

Sixty-seven percent (67%) of voters nationwide believe Washington politics is likely to become more partisan over the coming year. That figure is up sharply from 55% a month ago and from 40% when President Barack Obama first took office.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 16% now believe politics will become more cooperative. That’s down from 23% a month ago and 40% when the President took office.

By a 2-to-1 margin, Democrats now expect more partisanship. A month ago, they were evenly divided. Even larger majorities of Republicans and unaffiliated voters expect more partisanship.

Fifty-one percent (51%) believe that Barack Obama is governing as a partisan Democrat while 33% say he is acting on a bi-partisan basis. Those figures have shifted little over the past month. Just over half the nation’s Democratic voters say that Obama is governing on a bi-partisan basis while a majority of Republicans and unaffiliated voters hold the opposite view.


Fifty-four percent (54%) believe that Congressional Republicans are acting on a partisan basis and 63% say the same about Congressional Democrats. Both those figures are up four points over the past month.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) say the next President after Obama is at least somewhat likely to be a Republican. That’s up from 51% a month ago and 44% when Obama took office. Just 29% now say it’s not likely that a Republican will follow President Obama.

The survey was conducted during the Congressional recess highlighted by vigorous and contentious town hall meetings. The President’s Job Approval ratings have fallen to the lowest levels of his relatively short tenure. Support for the health care reform legislation working its way through Congress has fallen to 42% and most unaffiliated voters are now opposed to the plan.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tt11758 on August 14, 2009, 12:49:30 PM
Where the HELL were these people last November?!?
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: Pathfinder on August 14, 2009, 12:50:31 PM
Where the HELL were these people last November?!?

Probably recent converts to the truth. Even Saul had to have the scales lifted from his eyes to become Paul.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: WatchManUSA on August 14, 2009, 01:03:54 PM
Where the HELL were these people last November?!?

This type of poll comes out fairly often with similar findings.  Liberal leaning people think the Republicans in Washington are acting partisan.  Conservative leaning people think the Democrats are acting partisan.  It is always the other guy's fault.

The problem is, that when people respond about politics in general, they have a generally negative view.  However, when they are asked about their Senator or Representative they have a fairly positive view. 

The other guys are bad but my guy is tolerable.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 14, 2009, 04:33:41 PM
This type of poll comes out fairly often with similar findings.  Liberal leaning people think the Republicans in Washington are acting partisan.  Conservative leaning people think the Democrats are acting partisan.  It is always the other guy's fault.

The problem is, that when people respond about politics in general, they have a generally negative view.  However, when they are asked about their Senator or Representative they have a fairly positive view. 

The other guys are bad but my guy is tolerable.


Lucky you, mine sucks.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: WatchManUSA on August 14, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
Lucky you, mine sucks.

My Senators do, too.  My Representative is OK.  But I really wasn't talking about me when I said, "The other guys are bad but my guy is tolerable."
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 14, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
When Queen Nancy says: "We don't need Republicans to pass healthcare reform," it's gotten pretty partisan.

Since BHO got elected her philosophy has been "Everybody shut up. You can't do anything about it anyway." That's about as partisan as it gets. She seems to want the American people to shut up as much as the Republicans. After all, she knows what we need more than we do. >:(

Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 14, 2009, 08:37:43 PM
Maybe the Germans will rent us that little brick building Hitler used for the June 20th plotters.
We might even be able to get Auschwitz, But we may have to let them have the video and advertising rights.
I can see the ads in industrial journals, " America uses German incinerators to dispose of their trash".
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: WatchManUSA on August 14, 2009, 10:41:30 PM
When Queen Nancy says: "We don't need Republicans to pass healthcare reform," it's gotten pretty partisan.

Since BHO got elected her philosophy has been "Everybody shut up. You can't do anything about it anyway." That's about as partisan as it gets. She seems to want the American people to shut up as much as the Republicans. After all, she knows what we need more than we do. >:(


I would NOT be surprised if Obamus Maximus, Queen Nancy and Harry Dweeb ramrod both ObamaCare and Cap & Tax through regardless of public input and dare voters to kick them out of office.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 14, 2009, 11:55:56 PM
I would NOT be surprised if Obamus Maximus, Queen Nancy and Harry Dweeb ramrod both ObamaCare and Cap & Tax through regardless of public input and dare voters to kick them out of office.

They might want to listen in on a few Town hall meetings where the unAmerican, nazi, astroturf racists are allowed in before they do that. They might just get their bluff called.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 16, 2009, 12:08:23 AM
They might want to listen in on a few Town hall meetings where the unAmerican, nazi, astroturf racists are allowed in before they do that. They might just get their bluff called.
If they pass Crap & Tax or ObamaCare, they WILL get their bluff called. Guaranteed!!!
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 17, 2009, 01:52:54 AM
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_08_16-2009_08_22.shtml#1250469055

Althouse criticizes what she calls the [1]Orwellian use of
   "conversation" in current national debates:

     Man, "conversation" has become one of those Orwellian words. There
     it is in Obama's NYT interview, where he's saying something that
     invites the relabeling that Sarah Palin so effectively slapped on
     it â "death panels" ...

     Conversations! Damn! As if the government does not have power! Oh,
     but it's "not determinative," you say. It's just "some guidance."
     He said that, see? Ugh! Spare me! We're right to be afraid now,
     while the man is burbling about conversation. You know damned well
     he's about to say and now the time for conversation is over, and we
     must pass legislation. Before, he was all quick, shut up, it's an
     emergency, pass the legislation. People freaked, so then he deemed
     the period of freakage part of the conversation, and there, it has
     occurred, and now: shut up, pass the legislation.

   This makes me recall - perhaps not too surprisingly - a bit of a
   [2]book review I wrote in the TLS in the 1990s of Hillary Clinton's It
   Takes a Village, which also begins by calling for a ... conversation:

     Clinton begins by saying that "whether or not you agree with me, I
     hope it promotes an honest conversation among us". It is quickly
     evident, however, that she intends a conversation with the parents
     of America in much the same way that my mother, when I was a child,
     intended many conversations with me - the conversation was not
     "honest" or "over" until I came to agree with her.

References

   1. http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/08/are-we-having-conversation-yet.html
   2. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=935782

Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: 504Devil on August 18, 2009, 06:22:14 PM
One of these days people will wake up to the fact that none of these bastards are worth the tar and feathers it would take to coat their misserable asses.  That is why I will never vote for another incumbant at any level of government, they all  started at atleast the state or county level.  If available I will vote Constitutional or Libertarian Party, and I don't want to hear the crap about throwing away a vote -- if we haven't been throwing away our votes for the last 100 years on political hacks that do what the hell they want once they get elected I don't know what we have been doing.  Even Regean signed anti-gun legislation durning his time.  I'm just saying I am loosing faith in all of humanity one piece of crap at a time.
Title: Re: Partisan Politics
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 18, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
 One major problem is that both major parties have become obsolete They are run by old hacks with old ideologies.