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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on August 25, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
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http://www.examiner.com/x-2206-Cleveland-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m8d25-Now-a-gun-ban-dreamland-is-crime-in-Britain-out-of-control
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208782/Britains-drug-gun-culture-bad-U-S-crime-The-Wire-say-Tories.html
Now, the Daily Mail reports that while law abiding citizens have been nearly universally disarmed, the criminals have not and flaunt their power. According to the Mail, "the level of violent crime in Britain has risen by 70 per cent. Gun crime is up by more than half and there are more than 100 serious knife crimes each day, with fatal stabbings having reached the highest level on record."
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This should come as no great surprise to anyone who has NOT been vacationing on another planet in recent years. If disarming honest citizens had the affect of reducing violent crime, Chicago and Washington DC should be two of the safest cities in this country.
Surprisingly however, they are not. Go figure.
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I am so overwhelmingly shocked at this news. :o :o :o :o :o
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They are already going after the knifes.
Then they will have to go after the sticks and stones.
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What about golf clubs and tennis rackets? My grandmother could be kinda mean with a switch!
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Statistics always show that we are right. The numbers don't lie.
Every time that you take away peoples guns, crime increases. Crime rates are always reduced when a state enacts concealed carry.
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Statistics, facts and science don't make laws. Emotional arguements do.
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Statistics, facts and science don't make laws. Emotional arguements do.
That is a very sad but true statement. If logic prevailed over emotion many laws would change as would many in elected positions of power.
I'm not naming names, but: (http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae111/KidShelleen/jitcrunch1.jpg)
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That is a very sad but true statement. If logic prevailed over emotion many laws would change as would many in elected positions of power.
I'm nor naming names, but: (http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae111/KidShelleen/jitcrunch1.jpg)
(http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=4530;type=avatar) <------------ Racist ;D
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It isn't just guns and knives,
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_08_23-2009_08_29.shtml#1251409453
From the [1]BBC News:
Plans to replace the traditional pint glass with one made of
shatter-proof plastic will not be accepted by drinkers, the pub
industry has warned.
The Home Office has commissioned a new design, in an attempt to
stop glasses being used as weapons.
Official figures show 5,500 people are attacked with glasses and
bottles every year in England and Wales....
An accompanying statistic reports that "[a]pproximately 126 million
pints of beer are served a week in the UK"; if the 5500 attacks were
all using pint glasses or pint bottles, that would be about one attack
per million pints served. Thanks to Kurt Kastorf for the pointer.
References
1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8217775.stm
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(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/johnnybravo7/thth487hh0p.gif)
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I could of told you that
with the shootings here recently
just to day this happened ::) http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25992683-5006301,00.html
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What do you expect from the country that puts padding around telephone poles to keep people from hurting themselves?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
By James Slack
Last updated at 12:14 AM on 03rd July 2009
Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.
Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.
The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.
Britain has an even worse violence rate than South Africa
The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.
In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.
The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
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The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.
But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.
The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.
Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.
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'We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'
The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.
But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.
New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today
In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.
There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.
Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.
But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.
'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'
The timing of the Europe-wide violence figures is a blow for Mr Johnson, who will today seek to reassert Labour's law and order credentials.
In his first major speech on crime since becoming Home Secretary, Mr Johnson is expected to promise a concerted crack down on antisocial behaviour.
He wants to set up a website to allow the public to see what is taking place in their neighbourhood, such as the number of louts who have been served with Asbos.
Mr Johnson is also known to support early intervention to stop children going off the rails.
Now they are banning pointy knives. What next, name calling?
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Haha, We are not even in the top 10!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg)
USA! USA! USA! USA!
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Haha, We are not even in the top 10!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg)
USA! USA! USA! USA!
Don't get too excited. BHO is just getting started, and with his health care going down in flames he's gonna need another "save the children" issue.
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I have family in Spain and the UK and crimes is on the rise. In Spain they have Russian gangs going nuts bring drugs,illegal guns, and home invasion. In the Uk people are mugged,stabbed,home invaded, and its just part of life there. My grandmother left 8 years ago to come here the U.S. to get way from that shit. Its great having her here but it hurts to hear from relatives that say its not safe to be out after sunset.
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Sound like these countries need to invest in this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_7a0yck_E
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Sound like these countries need to invest in this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_7a0yck_E
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If any one has doubts, look at how well it worked at Virginia Tech.