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Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« on: August 25, 2009, 09:46:45 AM »
http://www.examiner.com/x-2206-Cleveland-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m8d25-Now-a-gun-ban-dreamland-is-crime-in-Britain-out-of-control

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208782/Britains-drug-gun-culture-bad-U-S-crime-The-Wire-say-Tories.html


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Now, the Daily Mail reports that while law abiding citizens have been nearly universally disarmed, the criminals have not and flaunt their power. According to the Mail, "the level of violent crime in Britain has risen by 70 per cent. Gun crime is up by more than half and there are more than 100 serious knife crimes each day, with fatal stabbings having reached the highest level on record."
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 10:53:51 AM »
This should come as no great surprise to anyone who has NOT been vacationing on another planet in recent years.  If disarming honest citizens had the affect of reducing violent crime, Chicago and Washington DC should be two of the safest cities in this country.  Surprisingly however, they are not.  Go figure.
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »
I am so overwhelmingly shocked at this news.    :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 05:53:38 PM »
They are already going after the knifes.

Then they will have to go after the sticks and stones.

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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 08:27:18 PM »
What about golf clubs and tennis rackets? My grandmother could be  kinda mean with a switch!
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 05:55:25 PM »
Statistics always show that we are right. The numbers don't lie.

Every time that you take away peoples guns, crime increases.  Crime rates are always reduced when a state enacts concealed carry.
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 06:01:34 PM »
Statistics, facts and science don't make laws. Emotional arguements do.

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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 06:16:16 PM »
Statistics, facts and science don't make laws. Emotional arguements do.
That is a very sad but true statement. If logic prevailed over emotion many laws would change as would many in elected positions of power.

I'm not naming names, but:
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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 07:38:50 PM »
That is a very sad but true statement. If logic prevailed over emotion many laws would change as would many in elected positions of power.

I'm nor naming names, but:






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Re: Gunfree utopia not working out so well
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »
 It isn't just guns and knives,

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_08_23-2009_08_29.shtml#1251409453

From the [1]BBC News:

     Plans to replace the traditional pint glass with one made of
     shatter-proof plastic will not be accepted by drinkers, the pub
     industry has warned.

     The Home Office has commissioned a new design, in an attempt to
     stop glasses being used as weapons.

     Official figures show 5,500 people are attacked with glasses and
     bottles every year in England and Wales....

   An accompanying statistic reports that "[a]pproximately 126 million
   pints of beer are served a week in the UK"; if the 5500 attacks were
   all using pint glasses or pint bottles, that would be about one attack
   per million pints served. Thanks to Kurt Kastorf for the pointer.

References

   1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8217775.stm

 

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