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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Johnny Bravo on September 04, 2009, 04:10:54 PM
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A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline.
A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year.
So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year.
They claim 700,000 vehicles – so that's 224 million gallons / year.
That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil.
5 million barrels of oil is about ¼ of one day's US consumption.
And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl.
So, we all contributed to spending $3 billion to save $350 million..
How good a deal was that ???
They'll probably do a great job w. health care though!!
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Johnny,
Don't forget the fuzzy stuff:
Our S 10 qualified if we traded for a new K 1500. Our S 10 gets 18 - 22 depending on the type of driving, and in theory the K1500 is better ... Friends that have the full size are getting 14-16 in daily driving and just over 20 on the highway.
Only the gobment can find a oil usage and pollution fix in that trade :-[
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Don't forget, the Goobermint allowed the Hummer H3 to be included. It was a pure waste of taxpayer dollars.
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Don't forget, the Goobermint allowed the Hummer H3 to be included. It was a pure waste of taxpayer dollars.
No Goverment Motors
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No Goverment Motors
Hummer isn't a GM product, they sold it to China a couple months ago.
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Hummer isn't a GM product, they sold it to China a couple months ago.
Which means the Chinese are making one of our most basic military vehicles! >:(
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Hummer isn't a GM product, they sold it to China a couple months ago.
I thought that deal went south and the Chinese back out?
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Military hummers are still made in the US of A - they did not go to China. There's a "$5 make you holla" joke in there somewhere. ;D
Deal is still on, just some things to work out IIRC.
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Military hummers are still made in the US of A - they did not go to China. There's a "$5 make you holla" joke in there somewhere. ;D
Deal is still on, just some things to work out IIRC.
Path,I know the Hummer is still made here but the chinks will be able to (more easily) put chips of their design into them. I know this may sound crazy BUT what if that put a chip in that they can effectively shut down at any time they want. Sorta puts a big hole in our mobility.
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Other than looks I don't think there is any actual direct connection between the actual HUMVEE and the Hummer brand
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Other than looks I don't think there is any actual direct connection between the actual HUMVEE and the Hummer brand
Hummers are nothing more than converted Chevy Tahoe's for the H2 and Colorados/Canyons for the H3. I don't know which chasis they use for the big one. Chevy trucks with some window dressing is all they are, just like the Chevy-GMC relationship. Same truck, different body parts.
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Hummers are nothing more than converted Chevy Tahoe's for the H2 and Colorados/Canyons for the H3. I don't know which chasis they use for the big one. Chevy trucks with some window dressing is all they are, just like the Chevy-GMC relationship. Same truck, different body parts.
The original HUMVEEs were designed and made by AM General in Indiana, so I think the design is original and not a GM/Ford/Chrysler knock-off. BTW, I did not know about the use of the GM bases for the H2 and 3 tho. Interesting.
And Haz, no problem with the chips - I expect something like that since I think the Chinese are at war with us, following Sun tzu's precepts, and not Western ideas of warfare. It would be fairly easy, though, to reverse engineer the computer code to determine exactly what the computers are telling the vehicle to do, although it may take a while. Fifteen years ago there were over 500k of computer instructions in automobile controllers. With memory cheap, and the need to exert more control to meet fed guidelines, it is probably a whole lot more now.
No need to implant Trojan horses tho - one EMP pulse will do most of them in.