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Title: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: billt on October 13, 2009, 01:27:39 PM
How many like to shoot the really big stuff? These are a few of mine.

(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8339/remingtonxp10035rem9bq.th.jpg) (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=remingtonxp10035rem9bq.jpg)

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Remington XP-100 in .35 Remington. Fajen laminated Coffee stock, Burris 2.5-8X with Leupold mounts.

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1364/newgunphotos007aj2.jpg)

A couple of Magnum Research BFR Revolvers. One in .45-70, the other in .500 S&W Magnum.

(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1296/dsc00021nr5.jpg)

Not much of a pose, but considering they are muzzle heavy as hell, and run right around 5 pounds each empty, it's not too bad. I wouldn't want to face her in a dark alley at night! Just something about women and guns. Gotta have both!  Bill T.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Ulmus on October 13, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
I've never shot a hand cannon, but I gotta admit I'd love one of those Magnum Research BFRs in 30-30!
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Walter45Auto on October 13, 2009, 01:36:28 PM
Love my .45-70 BFR! Love the looks it gets from people when they see or hear it. ;D
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: shooter32 on October 13, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
Just something about women and guns. Gotta have both!  Bill T.



And that you do!! ;)



Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: billt on October 13, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
I've never shot a hand cannon, but I gotta admit I'd love one of those Magnum Research BFRs in 30-30!

I've had my eye out for one for over 2 years now, but have never seen one for sale. I don't know if they ever went into production with them. I think they might have been plagued with "set back". It is the same problem that took the Smith & Wesson Model 53 revolver out of production back in the 60's, and made it a collectors item. It came with 2 cylinders to fire both .22 L.R. as well as the .22 Jet cartridge. It was a .357 Magnum case that was necked down with a gradual taper to .22 cal. The problem was if the chambers were not very clean and dry, the case would slip against the chamber walls and set back against the frame of the gun, thereby tying it up. Seeing as the .30-30 cartridge is a bottle necked rifle cartridge it might have produced the same issues.

I had listened to Tom Gresham's radio show "Gun Talk" a couple of years ago, and he had the President of Taurus International on his show. He was all excited about a .223 revolver the company was planning to bring out in just a few short months. I even called in and talked to him live on the air because I was interested in getting one. It never happened. I'm guessing cartridge set back was the reason.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: fightingquaker13 on October 13, 2009, 02:15:29 PM
Is that why I hate Billt thread still open? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 13, 2009, 04:12:53 PM
Is that why I hate Billt thread still open? ;D
FQ13

I don't know, but I think it's going to get "thread Bumped"   ;D
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: m25operator on October 13, 2009, 06:16:57 PM
Taurus did have the Raging Bee .218 bee revolver.

I sold off all my large Contender barrels.

All I have in this category is this little thing.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1389.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1390.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1391.jpg)

.300 savage necked down to 7mm, called a 7mm IHMSA.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: billt on October 13, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
I love the molded in mag well!  Bill T.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: m25operator on October 13, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
It's a 10 rd box mag, works like a champ.

AND IT IS FOR SALE !!  ;D
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: alfsauve on October 13, 2009, 07:37:33 PM
I'm a piker, guys.

My T/C is in .357Maximum.  10" barrel, original sights.   Used for production and standing big bore IHMSA.  If the opportunity presents itself, I get some other barrels for it.   Just haven't shot IHMSA in a long while.

I did fire my BIL's 45/70 years ago.  5 shots were enough, but I did handle it okay.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on October 13, 2009, 09:19:43 PM
They still make 357Maximum..........anything(let alone ammo)?
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: alfsauve on October 13, 2009, 09:25:28 PM
They still make 357Maximum..........anything(let alone ammo)?

I know you can still get the brass.   Just bought 500 this year.   I reload, so that's all I need.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Overload on October 14, 2009, 05:44:12 PM
I just picked up this puppy for my "two guns, one ammo' loadout.
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8659/automag31.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/automag31.jpg/)

I think it qualifies as a hand cannon.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 14, 2009, 06:01:08 PM
 What Caliber, .45 ?
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Big Frank on October 14, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
They still make 357Maximum..........anything(let alone ammo)?

You can get 11 different loads here. http://shop.reedsammo.com/searchquick-submit.sc?keywords=.357 and the T/C custom shop still makes .357 Max barrels.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Overload on October 14, 2009, 07:12:30 PM
What Caliber, .45 ?
Automag III
.30 Carbine
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Big Frank on October 14, 2009, 07:24:16 PM
Automag III
.30 Carbine

I thought it said III and was a .30 carbine. Nice to know I get things right sometimes.

Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 14, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
 I saw the "III" but I couldn't remember which was the .22 Magnum ?
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Ping on October 14, 2009, 10:06:56 PM
Awesome pistol Overload. Is it hard to handle on recoil?

I will stick to my .45 ACP as my hand cannon. Unfortunately I cannot hunt with it in Indiana. Unless I can collect some funds to buy a .44 magnum or .357 magnum then I would be set.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Big Frank on October 14, 2009, 11:11:14 PM
I saw the "III" but I couldn't remember which was the .22 Magnum ?

The model II is the .22 Magnum. I can remember that because my brother has one. I just wasn't sure that it said III on Overload's pistol. Nice gun, I wish I had one but my wants are too many and my dollars are too few.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Michael Bane on October 15, 2009, 01:02:54 PM
I suppose my .454 Seville SA, a gift from Hank Williams Jr., counts, as does the matching Ruger Alaskan .454. I did sell off my 10-inch 45-70 Contender barrel, as well as the .50/750 barrel from J.D. Jones, although one never knows when I might get that 45-70 or larger itch back.

Michael B
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: ericire12 on October 15, 2009, 01:04:49 PM
I suppose my .454 Seville SA, a gift from Hank Williams Jr., counts, as does the matching Ruger Alaskan .454. I did sell off my 10-inch 45-70 Contender barrel, as well as the .50/750 barrel from J.D. Jones, although one never knows when I might get that 45-70 or larger itch back.

Michael B

Now you are just showing off  :P
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: billt on October 15, 2009, 02:02:15 PM
I suppose my .454 Seville SA, a gift from Hank Williams Jr., counts, as does the matching Ruger Alaskan .454. I did sell off my 10-inch 45-70 Contender barrel, as well as the .50/750 barrel from J.D. Jones, although one never knows when I might get that 45-70 or larger itch back.

Michael B

Michael,

The .45-70 is really a nice handgun round loaded with the correct powder. I loaded up a batch with the Remington 405 grain Soft Point bullets with IMR-3031 powder and we really went through them in short order. They worked equally well in my Marlin .45-70 Guide Gun. All were accurate. The .45-70 is a great round in handguns or rifles.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Big Frank on October 15, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
I'm too wimpy to put a .45-70 barrel on my Contenter. The 3 most powerful calibers I have are:
.45 Colt with +P Cor-Bon ammo, .44 Magnum, and .357 Maximum.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Michael Bane on October 15, 2009, 04:29:51 PM
Hey, the few .357 Max rounds I've shot were filling-shakers!

mb
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Big Frank on October 15, 2009, 04:32:22 PM
Hey, the few .357 Max rounds I've shot were filling-shakers!

mb

They'll blow the front sight off if you don't have it Loc-Tited on. The recoil seems "sharper" than the other calibers too.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: alfsauve on October 15, 2009, 06:29:29 PM
Hey, the few .357 Max rounds I've shot were filling-shakers!


Aha, thank you.  Thank you, very much.   

The high end of .357max overlaps the low end of the .30/30. 


OKAY THAT's IT.  Tomorrow is silhouette day at the range.  I'm going for 50 round of Max.    I use to do 80 easy, (40 Creedmoore, 40 standing).

Title: Re: Hand "Cannons" or silhouette day at the range
Post by: alfsauve on October 16, 2009, 09:46:24 PM
Okay, so today, I declared, was "Silhouette Day At The Range"  or SDATR as I refer to it.

Yucky weather and not much time, so I went to an indoor range.  50 rds with my S&W 686 (8-3/8" barrel) and 50 rds with the T/C .357max hand cannon.   I asked, before I went, in if the range had any problem with this and they said their backstop could handle up to .500S&W.  And yes, I used copies of IHMSA targets that I made.  They're scaled for rimfire.

Only one other person was in there (6 lanes) and he left before I came out.  Evidently it was noticed.  As the store personnel and "regular" customers wanted to know about how it felt and shot.   I personally didn't think it was THAT much louder than the .357Mag.......then I did have both plugs and muffs on.  Since I haven't fired a whole box of ammo in a while it did become a challenge after about 20 rounds not to force the shot and not to flinch.   Of course, hand me a 9mm now and I'll think it's a .22.

Boy do I have a hankering to go shoot some IMHSA.  

Here's the BEST target out of 5.   It's only a 20yd range so don't get too impressed.


Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: m25operator on October 17, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
I wished I had kept mine ( .357 max ), it was a Wichita, break open single shot with 10" barrel, 1911 style grip frame, it was a cannon.

A friend of mine is a muzzle flash freak, likes short barrels, light bullets and lots of powder. The one that will get peoples attention everytime, is his 4 5/8" Ruger SRM .357max, with 110 grn bullets and 30 grns of H110, the flash and the percussion, makes you think something just blew up.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Walter45Auto on October 31, 2009, 01:30:06 PM
This thread makes me want my Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag back even more..... I'll tell ya one hand cannon I'd like to give a try.... One of those Cut Down .45-70 Guide Guns Wild West guns made for a while. I think they called them the Bushwhacker. It was like a Mares leg made out of a guide gun.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: ske1eter on October 31, 2009, 07:22:44 PM
Not sure they're cannons but my main guns are an Encore in .308 Win and a Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger. They both did well in a recent trip to the Dark Continent though.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 31, 2009, 08:09:36 PM
 Is that Encore the "Super 14" barrel ?
And yes they qualify as cannons !  ;D
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: ske1eter on October 31, 2009, 08:38:43 PM
Is that Encore the "Super 14" barrel ?
And yes they qualify as cannons !  ;D

I i wasn't sure so I just went and measured. It's actually a 15" barrel sporting a Burris 2-7x IER Posi-Lock scope.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: ROBSTER on October 31, 2009, 08:45:28 PM
I`ve got an encore hand cannon in the origanal 375 JDJ shoots very well and when you load them hot it`s real fun!!!
Also have them in 30-06,308,270,and 22 hornet
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: ROBSTER on October 31, 2009, 08:49:38 PM
SKE1ETER,
how did the 480 do all`ive shot with mine has been paper water bottles and a raccoon.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Combat Diver on November 07, 2009, 09:38:17 AM
I shoot allot of .41 and .44 Mag out of my Smiths, have a 14" T/C Contender barrel and would like a 45/70 one.  Just before I deployed in June got to to shoot .454 and .460 S&W out of a Smith, that was real FUN!

CD
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Hazcat on November 07, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
CD,

I have never fired any hand gun larger that .44 mag, well other than hot loads from my Redhawk 45 colt.  I have a .454 lever gun and that thing is a THUMPER! It comes with a shotgun style recoil pad!  18inch ported barrel, it is a blast to shoot.  The range usually quiets down for a second when I unleash that first round. ;)
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: TAB on November 07, 2009, 05:25:58 PM
I got to play with one of the smtih 500 proto types,  with a full muzzle brake and being 100 oz empty, it still kicked like a beast.  you really don't want to shoot full power loads more then you have too.  The loads were set up to hunt cape.
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Overload on November 07, 2009, 11:18:38 PM
I got to play with one of the smtih 500 proto types,  with a full muzzle brake and being 100 oz empty, it still kicked like a beast.  you really don't want to shoot full power loads more then you have too.  The loads were set up to hunt cape.

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3084/nocapes.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/i/nocapes.jpg/)
NO CAPES!
Title: Re: Hand "Cannons"
Post by: Hazcat on November 08, 2009, 06:29:35 AM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3084/nocapes.jpg) (http://img137.imageshack.us/i/nocapes.jpg/)
NO CAPES!

Oh!  GOOD one!  ;D