Court clears reciting of Pledge of Allegiance at Western schools

[PegLeg45]

Not in terms of the pledge. Here its just about saying you're a loyal American without signing on for a particular (or for that matter any) religious belief. What settles the argument for me isn't the 1A, its Article VI section 3, which reads "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States". To me that would include a loyalty oath. I want you to pledge allegiance to the nation. God is on his own. He can handle it.
FQ13

FTA:

Children are not required to stand and repeat the pledge, but some parents said the social pressures to conform were an improper infringement of their rights. The plaintiffs now have the option of asking the Supreme Court to hear the case.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.....and I'm not saying you, or anyone, is wrong here.

But, I have a feeling this could turn into another dead horse, lying by a stream.

[fightingquaker13]

Peg, you know, its not just the  "under God" addendum to the  pledge that concerns me here. As I've previously noted the author of that loyalty oath (written in 1892 and ammended in 1954) that we all said every day in school, was a patriot, an ordained Reverend and a socialist, and saw no conflict (correctly) between the three. Here is what I would add to the mix. I  taught for four years at a Quaker college (hence the screen name). I was humbled by these people. I wouldn't vote for any of them, but when it came to walking a Christian walk, they really did serve as an example of putting your money were your mouth is. Liberal as heck, but every meeting (including the Socialist Alliance, which I was invited to debate the Libertarian position in front of) started with a moment of silent prayer. But what never happened, not even once, on that campus, was receiting the pledge of allegiance. Prayer yes, the Pledge, no. The flag flew over the quad, but no pledge. Why? Because Quakers refuse to take oaths. They consider it Blasphemy. They love God and country, but will never take an oath. Thats why the Constitution allows elected officials to "swear or affirm" (again Article VI section 3). I think the flag waving Bible bangers have come to forget that there a lot of patriotic Christians who love America as much as they do, but just see things a little differently when it comes to these issues. Just my .02.
FQ13  

[tombogan03884]

FQ, I know you are hampered by a college education, but even you should be able to see that a Socialist can not be loyal to a Constitutional Republic, nor a sincere minister of the Lords word.

[twyacht]

I'm still stunned this ruling came from the 9th Circus,...Circuit....

Based on this courts previous rulings, I wonder,,,,considering the financial state of Ca, if the Kool-Aid "land of fruits and nuts", has been diluted with reality.

One could only hope...

The Pledge, regardless of who wrote it, IMHO, carries a "bigger picture" meaning. It instills a sense of Nationalism, Pride, Loyalty, and Obligation, that AS Americans, we have to maintain, or it can be lost. Not if you worship, God or not, but an actual Pledge to Maintain this Republic.

"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again."
Ronald Wilson Reagan, 40th President of the United States

"and to the Republic, for which it Stands,"
"One Nation",....(excerpt.)

and of course, if this atheist, lawyer doesn't like it, he can please move to France, and have the Muslim populations get his panties in a bunch".