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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 11:00:29 PM »
Well, maybe those on the list now have 'a good cause' to get a permit to carry, being as they cannot leave their handgun at home unattended lest if fall into criminal hands, or maybe they could make a case they are more likely to walk into a burglar hunting down the gun in the home thanks to the website.  

BTW, I'd sue the pants off the site's owner as an accomplice if my hand gun was stolen, even if it's just to make him pay legal bills.

if its public info, the case will be thrown out.


its both a good thing and a bad thing. that there are lists of permit holders.
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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 08:21:28 AM »
if its public info, the case will be thrown out.


its both a good thing and a bad thing. that there are lists of permit holders.

A half a dozen or so armed thugs doing a 'Home Invasion' to get to your gun collection is seldom a good thing. 

Giving them the names and addresses of potential targets can not be considered as anything but poor judgment at best,
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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 08:57:43 AM »
has that ever happen.  honestly i would like to know.

the reason why its a good thing, is its more transparency in govermental actions.  which is always a good thing.


you think its bad being a gun owner, try being a contractor. litterly every thing about me is online and has to be by law.  name, address, phone number, bonding company, workmens comp, claim history, date you started the biz... basicly every thing but my ssn.  i've even had some male donkey run around claiming to be me, using every thing by the correct phone number.  chances are very good he got that info  online as i never advertised, in anyway.  no name on the truck, no sign on the house, no ads...  only 2 ways he could have gotton that info, he got a copy of a contract from a client or from the contracting board either online/phone/ in person. 
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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 09:09:24 AM »
has that ever happen.  honestly i would like to know.

the reason why its a good thing, is its more transparency in govermental actions.  which is always a good thing.


More Non-existence in governmental action is always a good thing.  I own the gun legally, they should not be giving me permission on to carry it.  They should not have that list to make it public in the first place.
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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 09:26:18 AM »
should and do are too very diffrent things.

i should not have to get a contracting lic to sign a contract, but i do.  the contract should be enough, but its not.

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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 07:54:10 PM »

"This is an open invitation for Mr. Crime to come visit," said Strnad, a handgun instructor certified by the National Rifle Association. "It's nobody's business whether I have a pistol permit."

This issue has come up in other states and has been denied, over and over. In court.

But NY is slowly slipping into the broke and dismal abyss, of an east coast Kalifornia.
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Pistol permit website sparks debate (NY)
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2010, 09:34:37 PM »
This whole "to print or not to print" the CCW list is the wrong argument.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY LIST ANYWAY.   

The only list the government should keep is the list of those convicted of crimes.   Everyone else is....uh presummed innocent and can go about their business unimpeded.   Like carrying a weapon for protection concealed or otherwise.

So what they have us doing is busy arguing the wrong things, while they turn up the heat in the frying pan just one more degree.
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