As if you didn't have enough reason to leave NY

[r_w]

I just told you. Being a convicted felon is the ONLY reasonable reason to be restricted.

That isn't reasonable.  If they have done the time, ALL rights of citizenship should be restored.  If you don't trust them with a gun, don't let them out of jail--cause they can get one if they want one anyway.

[bjtraz]

I just told you. Being a convicted felon is the ONLY reasonable reason to be restricted.

Why is that in itself a "reasonable reason"? I understand it is the current law, but why? I feel if you've served your debt to society, then your rights should be restored. This seems hypocritical to me. Who gets to draw the line on "reasonable"? You, or Bloomberg? If what you did was so atrocious that you aren't capable of maturely possessing a firearm, why are you released from prison? If you're a danger to society with a firearm, why aren't you a danger to society with a (insert "weapon" here)?

Brian

P.S. Oops, I should of refreshed before I posted. B.

[McGyver]

Mayor Bloombutt isn't fit to judge a fart from a gnats ass! It depends on the crime committed as to what the restrictions should be.
ANY violent crime or sex crime should be restricted IE: ownership/use of a deadly weapon.

D/Violence can be a slippery slope, as one can be convicted with such little, sometimes circumstancial, evidence.

Just because you are a felon shouldn't mean your gun rights should be restricted. There ARE exceptions, but to say ALL felons should be resrticted is just not right!

JMHO, YMMV 

[tombogan03884]

FQ is right, if you don't think so, just look at DC, Heller has been back to court 3 or 4 times.
As for the Felony DQ it is BS. until they passed the NFA ( under a Dem ) when you were released they would give your guns back to you.
As for Lautenburg denying you your civil rights for a misdemeanor ? I hope his wife beats him to death.

[JC5123]

Good points guys, I must admit to getting caught up in the stigma of someone being a convicted felon. You are right of course that once you have paid your debt, ALL rights should be restored. Of course in a perfect world our penal system would also punish offenders instead of sending them to a health club. 

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[tombogan03884]

Here in NH we are currently fighting over a new parole law.
Child molester, Served his entire sentence , no time off for good behavior, no reductions, nothing, Now the State is refusing to release him. They claim he poses a "continuing danger to the community"
True enough, Child molesters have nearly a 100% rate of re offending . However they should have thought of that when they sentenced him.
This is the first step toward "indefinite detention".
But " it's for the children".
BS, it's just another erosion of the rule of law.

[fightingquaker13]

Here in NH we are currently fighting over a new parole law.
Child molester, Served his entire sentence , no time off for good behavior, no reductions, nothing, Now the State is refusing to release him. They claim he poses a "continuing danger to the community"
True enough, Child molesters have nearly a 100% rate of re offending . However they should have thought of that when they sentenced him.
This is the first step toward "indefinite detention".
But " it's for the children".
BS, it's just another erosion of the rule of law.

This pisses me off as well. Courts shouldn't be able to do this. If you've served your full sentence, you should be free to go. In the case of child molestors there is an easy and Constitutional fix here. Sentence them to conditional life terms (ie. 5yrs to life, 15 years to life etc.). Send them to these "treatment facilities" after the minimum time. Then let them and the shrinks convince the parole board (or other legislatively established commission) that they are not a danger. Lock them up forever, or let them go when they'v done the minimum time and aren't viewed as a threat. Either way, the sentence needs to come from the legislature and be spelled out in the law.
FQ13

[Fatman]

This pisses me off as well. Courts shouldn't be able to do this. If you've served your full sentence, you should be free to go. In the case of child molestors there is an easy and Constitutional fix here. Sentence them to conditional life terms (ie. 5yrs to life, 15 years to life etc.). Send them to these "treatment facilities" after the minimum time. Then let them and the shrinks convince the parole board (or other legislatively established commission) that they are not a danger. Lock them up forever, or let them go when they'v done the minimum time and aren't viewed as a threat. Either way, the sentence needs to come from the legislature and be spelled out in the law.
FQ13

Sadly, the problem with sex offenders is they are always a danger. The sex drive is extremely powerful, and when the circuitry goes haywire the only sure way to fix it (currently) is by some form of castration (removing the hormones).

Dirty little psychology secret: they can't CURE any of the afflictions or behaviors. Only CONTROL at best, and even that control isn't 100%.  Only depression seems to go away eventually if you can work the depressed person through the bout and it's most likely whatever set it off in the body eventually remedied itself.