Gun Nuts review of the T/C Icon Warlord

[MikeBjerum]

Not saying that it isn't a sweet set-up that I'd love to have, or that it is over or under priced, or that there is any reason to stop trying for a single .308 hole from five shots.

But, there are a lot of gun packages out there for $1k or less that will shoot one or sub-one MOA all day long, and that is good enough for all but the stiffest competition shot by the stiffest competitor.

Still want the stupid gun tho!

[breezzer99]

nice rifle. I have a rem sps 308 and the 223 both decent well for the money.

[tombogan03884]

As I posted earlier, T/C has not yet established any kind of reputation in the bolt gun market, but I will give my former employer credit on 2 counts, They make some of the best barrels available on commercial rifles for their single shots, that reputation was why S&W bought them.
The second thing is that when I handled the standard Icon in the Gun store a year or so ago, I thought it was probably the smoothest non custom bolt I had ever worked.
But $3500 is awful high for the new kid on the bolt action block.

[kmitch200]

1000 is a cheap scope.  Price out a Schmidt & Bender.

My NightForce 5.5-22X50 was quite enough thank you! Although the S&B is only a $1000 more.

I really got spoiled by the lit reticle in the woods once the sun went down and it starts getting dark VERY quick.
Those last few minutes of hunting time are critical in the deer stand I use. (it seems to be a 'sunset stand')

[alfsauve]

I want a drop-dead-accurate rifle (pardon the pun), but I was thinking more along .260 Rem caliber.    You'd think for $3,500 they'd offer most any .308 based caliber.    I may just stick with Tikka, a lot less expensive.

BTW, if someone else hasn't mentioned it, T/C does list it in .338Lapua.

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[fightingquaker13]

Seriously? How accurate do you need to be? I mean, a gun that will shoot MOA or less is a lot more accurate that 99% of us. The range thing is another issue. Most of us are stuck with 100 yard ranges. Who cares what it will do at one thousand yards if you never get to use it at that range? If you hunt, figure 250 yards tops (make it 350 if you're shooting down a sendero in Texas or across a ravine in Montana). Still, a good old out of the box Savage with a decent piece of glass on it, figure $400 for the rifle and maybe $600 tops for the scope, in any standard caliber from .270 to .300 win mag will do the job. Not just for the range or the hunt, but for social work. If you can hit a dessert plate at 400 yards you have got all you need. Why drop $4 k?
FQ13

[MikeBjerum]

Seriously? How accurate do you need to be? I mean, a gun that will shoot MOA or less is a lot more accurate that 99% of us. The range thing is another issue. Most of us are stuck with 100 yard ranges. Who cares what it will do at one thousand yards if you never get to use it at that range? If you hunt, figure 250 yards tops (make it 350 if you're shooting down a sendero in Texas or across a ravine in Montana). Still, a good old out of the box Savage with a decent piece of glass on it, figure $400 for the rifle and maybe $600 tops for the scope, in any standard caliber from .270 to .300 win mag will do the job. Not just for the range or the hunt, but for social work. If you can hit a dessert plate at 400 yards you have got all you need. Why drop $4 k?
FQ13

That is the same thought I posted earlier.

However, striving for absolute perfect, even though we know that WE can never attain that is what makes us great!

[droggsey]

If its got that kind of performance and price tag, I'd lean toward .338 lapua. If I can drop close to $5k on a rifle and scope and doo dads, I can probably afford the ammo. I'm assuming that 1/2 MOA holds out into the far distance of course. Still, less than1/2" at 100 yards is just plain scary. A guy might lose an eye.
FQ13

Seeing how quickly the clip versus mag error causes grief on this forum I can't believe no one else caught the MOA problem with the statement above. MOA doesn't care about distance. One MOA at 100yards = 1.047" and 1 MOA at 200 yards = 2.094"

[alfsauve]

I don't view it as a competition between who shoots the best, the gun or the gunner.   It's a cooperative thing.    Everybody's groups will improve as the gun improves.   

If you can hold (shoot) to 8MOA with your chosen position and the gun can shoot to 8MOA then you'll miss a pie plate about half the time.   But if the gun is sub-MOA, then all of a sudden you can hit the stupid pie plate every shot.   Got to tell you though, ain't much to eat on them plates.  Pretty slim pickin's.

But you're right FQ, is all you intend to do is hit deer out to 100yds, no need to pay for super accuracy.  I have other desires.

With me maybe it's a vanity thing.   Had my Savage 25 (.223) out at a range and the guy next to me had an accurized .308 Remington.  Somebody left a bunch of golf balls down range.  He and I were having a blast (sorry) taking turns at hitting them.  The other shooters were having trouble hitting their 24"x24" targets.  We were god's to them!

I save a lot of money on targets with an accurate gun.   A single 5 bull air gun target is all I need for 100yds.    When I've shot all the bulls I start going for groups in the spaces between bulls.    YEP, it's a vanity thing.