Author Topic: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun  (Read 14834 times)

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2011, 10:03:05 AM »
I don't know much about Kahr guns. 

What I've read is pretty good.  I just found them really expensive for a plastic pistol.  The ironic thing about them is they're manufactured in Worcester, MA, a city in the middle of the state where the asshat Chief of Police makes it almost impossible to get a license to carry permit.  You can manage to get one, but he usually denies the first time and makes you go to arbitration with the firearms board.  He even tried to outlaw pocket knives.

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 12:14:35 PM »
I agree that for the most part shooting a new gun first before making any mods is preferrable and it is not my attention to pooh pooh anyones advice here as it is genuinely appreciated.
That being said perhaps I should have been a little more descriptive of this in my initial posting.

I have a considerable amount of experience with the Glock platform....having owned many Glocks in just about every caliber and configuration available in the Gen-2 and Gen-3 guns. 
A couple of them were customized to differing degrees depending upon what my intended use was for them at the time.
I have owned three of the compact models, two of those being 19's in the past, but never had one specifically for a CCW gun.

I guess my real questions are more in line with the selection of the Heinie Slant Pro Sights...and the use of the extended mag release for a Concealed Carry gun...I do plan on getting rid of the factory plastic sights...thus my question about the Slant Pro's.

I had a 1911 with Heinie sights on it that I used for IPSC back in the mid 1980's...the Slant Pro's seem to be highly recommended for the Glock 19 platform. I just haven't found anyone with real life experience on the Heinie 3190 Qwik 3-D sight.  The rear sight has a notch cut .156" wide and .120" deep for quicker sight picture acqusition.

As for the mag release my concerns are with accidental mag releases during the draw from the extended button...some say this fear is unfounded...but I have had it happen in a Desantis speed rig during a match, so it seems possible tcould happen drawing from concealment.

I know the stock trigger is a useable trigger for me but in the future I know I will be making some mods to the trigger group anyway...I made the NY Trigger Mod with the 3.5 connector in the past to a previous Model 17 Gen-3 ..I came out with a very smooth trigger that broke cleanly in the 5 pound range.  The NY trigger spring mod is said to improve the resetting qualities being that it is a push to compress spring and not a pull to load type.

As far as shooting the gun goes...I relaod just about every caliber that I currently own or have ever owned...this includes some .32 acp, .380 acp and the 9 mm...so getting familiar with this pistol isn't going to be an issue.

The class I spoke of is a requirement prior to making application in Missouri...8-hours of classroom followed by a live fire qualification. The qualification requires that you shoot 75%...a 15 out of 20 is what the website says...at 7 yards...I use to shoot IPSC and some PPC matches so I am really not to worried about that portion of the testing.

As I stated guys...I appreciate any advice...and I don't dismiss even the most basic of it...I'm a believer in the K.I.S.S. concepts for the most part and I think too many times we tend to forget about the basics in favor of the newest and flashiest.
 
I agree with replacing the plastic sights with steel sights of some type before carrying. This is by far the weak point of Glock design. I've seen many factory rear sights that got knocked out in extreme use/carry. I personally have to shorten the mag releases for all my carry Glocks, not extend them. I'm a lefty and carry IWB strong side and have had many issues in the past with the mag release being hit without my knowledge. It's really bad in Kydex. In leather I usually drill or punch out a portion of the holster that rides above the button but still always radius the edges off the button and shorten it a bit. I really have this problem on my LCP's. I wish they made a model with a heel mag release since it's not a combat, quick mag change type of pistol anyway. On one of my LCP's I've shortened the button to the point it barely extends from the frame.

Anyway back to the Glocks, I've done some of the trigger jobs you're talking about with the  New York trigger and 3.5# disconnector (I prefer the ZevTech) and lighter springs. If you go this route it is pretty much what you described, 5-6# trigger with a short reset, good carry trigger. Make sure you use the heavier striker spring with it since even the factory in that setup has had hard primer issues. I've used the Heine sights before, I had them on my limited gun for a long time. They are nice but it's all personal preference when it comes to sights. I personally prefer XS big dots on all my SD/carry pistols yet some people hate them. The thing about a Glock is you really don't need to mess with much, the old if it ain't broke don't fix it theory. Plastic sights are crap beyond that do what works for you.
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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 06:45:56 PM »
My $0.02:

I'm not going to read through three pages for this question, so if it's already been stated, forgive me.

The addition of Night Sights are something that I think are worth the money. You were wondering about having a wider notch on the rear sight. This is a worthy addition, in my opinion. It makes picking up the front sight faster, while allowing you to make those precise shots when you need to. I like the 10-8 Sights myself.

As to the NY1/3.5 Trigger, I'm a fan of it. It gives a more positive reset from my expirience. I have had them on my Glocks in the past, and will again in the future. My spouse prefers the standard trigger, so my Glocks are set up to mimic her's. I don't often carry a Glock, as I prefer other platforms. The NY1/3.5 Trigger harkens back to the days of old when revolvers ruled the roost. It is reminiscent of a revolver's trigger stroke. If you are a revolver shooter you might like the NY1/3.5 set up.

I like that the NY1/3.5 has a consistant take-up without all the spongeyness of the typical Block trigger. If you shoot from reset, which I do, it is a more positive feeling of reset when compared to the standard trigger. The NY1/3.5 is an approved Glock modification for duty use. That means you will be staying within factory specifications with your firearm if you ever need to justify it to a jury. There are law enforcement agencies issuing the same trigger set-up, so documentation on it will be easy to locate for your lawyer to use at your trial.

Give it a try. The worst that can happen would be that you decide you don't like it. It's cheap enough that you should be able to afford to scrap it if it's not your cup of tea.

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 01:38:37 PM »
Great read and really enjoyed reading the input. I was too late to say anything and most had already been covered. Nice Kahr but I would have purchased the Glock instead. If you like it rat31465, that is all that matters.

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Re: Suggestions on Mods for a new Glock CCW Carry Gun
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 04:38:33 PM »
Slanted rear sights were a 90's fad gone wrong.. I fell for it too.  What were we thinking?  No noubt, it had something to do with the ridiculous clearing of "stovepipes" by wiping the hand over the gun... a silly 80's fad.

Getting hung up during presentation??  The BACK of the front sight is the surface that would get hung up, not the front.

Anyway: yes, new sights, but they should be flat fronted.  Even on the Kahr.


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