Blasphemy!

[warhawke]

AK mag changes are a problem? You mean like an M-14 mag-change? Or A Mini-14, G-3, FN FAL, or ALL the other guns that change mags the same way, WOW who knew so many gun designers were retarded?

The charging handle is a problem? Like the M-1, M-14, M-1 Carbine, Mini-14, AR-180, Sig 55x, or ALL the other guns that use the same design? Must be the same retards that designed the magazines.

The safety is a problem? Well I suppose if you want to stand around finger-f&%@#$g your safety all day then I guess it might. Of course I just reach up with my fingers and snap it off when I want it off and I leave it the hell off till I figure I don't need to shoot anymore, of course my I keep my fingers the hell off the trigger till I want to fire too.

As for the length of pull, I never had a problem and I'm 6 foot 4 and 200+ pounds, besides if it was longer we would need to put M-4 stocks on it to shrink it down to fit when we wear all that tacti-cool gear the other mall-ninjas get. Then again, I was taught to shoot by people who fought in Vietnam and other places and knew life sucks and you just gotta deal and drive on! If you want to shoot bulls-eyes off a bench, then I guess it might be, but if you plan to fight with it it is fine.

Want to argue about it? Argue with this guy;

or this guy;

I've never understood why people bad-mouth this weapon and forget that the AK is not all that different than the other weapons made during the same time and has been copied ever since. BTW you forgot "The trigger sucks", of course the trigger design is nearly a copy of the M-1 Garand.

[kilopaparomeo]

I've never understood why people bad-mouth this weapon and forget that the AK is not all that different than the other weapons made during the same time and has been copied ever since.

You misinterpret my comments...

I'm NOT bad-mouthing the weapon.  If you read my comments above I clearly said that ALL systems had deficiencies.  There is no such thing as a perfect system.  They all have traits of the breed and you just work around them.

Just like I can find (and agree with) the deficiencies of the FAL, I can find those issues with any rifle / pistol / shotgun.  Learn them and learn to work with them.

Do like the mag change system?  No.  Think there are better ones out there?  Yes.  Is the standard one useable?  Yes
Do I like the charging handle?  No.  Think there are better ones out there?  Yes.  Is the standard one useable?  Yes
Do I like the safety?  No.  Think there are better ones out there?  Yes.  Is the standard one useable?  Yes

Want to argue about it? Argue with this guy;

Not arguing.  No intention of arguing.  That's why I put the little smiley face next to the deficiencies when I answered Tom

Sigh...

For my next post, I will talk about how the 1911 sucks (and I love 1911s)

[tombogan03884]

AK mag changes are a problem? You mean like an M-14 mag-change? Or A Mini-14, G-3, FN FAL, or ALL the other guns that change mags the same way, WOW who knew so many gun designers were retarded?

The charging handle is a problem? Like the M-1, M-14, M-1 Carbine, Mini-14, AR-180, Sig 55x, or ALL the other guns that use the same design? Must be the same retards that designed the magazines.

The safety is a problem? Well I suppose if you want to stand around finger-f&%@#$g your safety all day then I guess it might. Of course I just reach up with my fingers and snap it off when I want it off and I leave it the hell off till I figure I don't need to shoot anymore, of course my I keep my fingers the hell off the trigger till I want to fire too.

As for the length of pull, I never had a problem and I'm 6 foot 4 and 200+ pounds, besides if it was longer we would need to put M-4 stocks on it to shrink it down to fit when we wear all that tacti-cool gear the other mall-ninjas get. Then again, I was taught to shoot by people who fought in Vietnam and other places and knew life sucks and you just gotta deal and drive on! If you want to shoot bulls-eyes off a bench, then I guess it might be, but if you plan to fight with it it is fine.

Want to argue about it? Argue with this guy;

or this guy;

I've never understood why people bad-mouth this weapon and forget that the AK is not all that different than the other weapons made during the same time and has been copied ever since. BTW you forgot "The trigger sucks", of course the trigger design is nearly a copy of the M-1 Garand.

G-3 has drop free mags like an AR .

[RevLouM]

Having carried the FN-FAL and used it in accordance with it's label directions, I can tell you that I would snap up as many as I could afford as often as I could afford them.

I don't care HOW MANY rounds a guy pumps down-range AT a "range".  It ain't the same.  And while it would NOT be my first choice for CQB, it is an EXCELLENT MBR.  I never had, ( in the bush ), ANY issues as described. 

AS an MBR, history should, ( and probably will...), list it with the Garand, the AK, and the Galil...at the TOP of the list.

[tombogan03884]

The biggest flaw with the FAL, as with all other battle RIFLES, is that it was to long for most of the places it was actually used.
It was probably a truly great rifle where long range shots were available, Places like Oman, or the African Veldt. But it was far less handy in the more common jungles of Malaya and Vietnam, or the Urban environment of Ulster.
This is what lead most countries to adopt shorter carbine length weapons like the SA-80 or M-4, which are now proving to have insufficient range for places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's really a vicious circle, you try to plan based on lessons of the last war but then some variable factor chucks all your theories out the window.

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[kilopaparomeo]

And that's the rub, ain't it.  No single system will ever be good at everything.  We keep narrowing in on a better system but its really hard for one rifle to be

light
handy
carry lots of ammo
have long range punch
knock every skinny down DRT
be controllable in full auto
be laser accurate to 800 yards
be perfectly reliable
be extermely short
have lots of muzzle velocity
shoot through all cover
be super reliable
be incredibly modular
be completely ergonomic
on and on and on

[tombogan03884]

You're looking for the atomic hand grenade 

[warhawke]

G-3 has drop free mags like an AR .

Actually, it has both on the standard model (F-troop makes them take off the paddle) and the paddle works better as the button is hard to use quickly.