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Gun ownership – playing with fire or does it actually help prevent crime?
« on: April 14, 2011, 09:21:18 AM »
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Re: Gun ownership – playing with fire or does it actually help prevent crime?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 09:23:48 AM »
I can't watch the video here.
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Re: Gun ownership – playing with fire or does it actually help prevent crime?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 09:42:49 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 14, 2011, 09:23:48 AM
I can't watch the video here.

try this one  ( same vid)

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Re: Gun ownership – playing with fire or does it actually help prevent crime?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 10:17:20 AM »
I thought we had already established (especially on this board) that the most reliable studies conclusively demonstrate a significant reduction in crime when gun ownership is allowed.  That there is still some sort of foolish debate stems from an unwillingness on the left to recognize confirmed facts. 

Personally, I believe the lefties are afraid of what they themselves would do if they had a gun.  They fear their own lack of control and attribute a similar lack of control to others.  And, I think they are probably right to deny themselves gun ownership because they likely do not have enough self control to be trusted with a firearm.  But, I personally have owned various firearms for more than 45 years, and carried concealed for more than 15, and I have yet to shoot anybody.  Oh, I've certainly wanted to, but that's where that "self control" thing comes into play.

These gun grabbing folks tend to be similar to those who because they are vegans want to eliminate meat from everyones' menu.
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Re: Gun ownership – playing with fire or does it actually help prevent crime?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 12:14:25 PM »
You can not conclusively say that "More guns = less crime", there are always anomalous locations like New Orleans with fairly non restrictive gun laws and ridiculous crime rates.
However, the evidence of the opposite is over whelming Fewer guns definitely = more crime, there are no anomalies in the statistics showing that cities and states with stricter gun laws ALL have higher crime rates.
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