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The Chicago 500
« on: December 29, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
How can this be??
What with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Chicago should be a Disney World of non-violence.
What?
Gun control doesn't really work?
Perish the thought.

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Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides

Chicago reached “a tragic number” today, according to Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy: Its homicide total for the year hit 500, the highest annual total since 2008.

The city's latest homicide occurred around 9 p.m. Thursday when Nathaniel T. Jackson, 40, an alleged gang member with a lengthy arrest record, was gunned down outside a store in the Austin neighborhood.

As of Thursday night, homicides were up 17 percent over last year in Chicago and shootings had increased by 11 percent, according to police statistics. Earlier this fall, Chicago already exceeded the number of homicides that occurred last year, but this is the first time the city has had 500 or more murders since the 512 in 2008.

Largely contributing to the spike was the unusual number of homicides that occurred during the early part of the year, when the city experienced unseasonable warmth. In the first three months of the year, homicides ran about 60 percent ahead of the 2011 rate.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-2012-homicide-toll-20121228,0,5456581.story


It's the heat...yeah, the heat.  ::)
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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 12:25:13 PM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on December 29, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
How can this be??
What with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Chicago should be a Disney World of non-violence.
What?
Gun control doesn't really work?
Perish the thought.

It's the heat...yeah, the heat.  ::)

IIRC, there was at least 1 and, I think maybe more, shootings by armed citizens and it appeared at the time they were not to be prosecuted.

I do wonder if those shootings might coincide with the shift to cooler weather?
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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 01:19:16 PM »
Chicago is also bragging that they are down to a mere 1300 murders this year.
For comparison , the entire state of NH had 20 .
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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 02:05:39 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on December 29, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Chicago is also bragging that they are down to a mere 1300 murders this year.
For comparison , the entire state of NH had 20 .

Not to argue your point, but where did you get the "1300" number? Everything I've read put the number at the 500 listed above.

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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 02:14:38 PM »


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Largely contributing to the spike was the unusual number of homicides that occurred during the early part of the year, when the city experienced unseasonable warmth. In the first three months of the year, homicides ran about 60 percent ahead of the 2011 rate

All that heat in Jan-March?
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Re: The Chicago 500
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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 02:46:44 PM »



The Divine Pharoah Darth Deadfish Rahm must be so proud.....How come BHO doesn't speak in his own HOMETOWN about the death of young mostly black and latino gangbangers by those dastardly firearms that are probably all stolen?  ???

Nevermind,...

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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 02:58:51 PM »
A quick Google search found that most shooting victims have criminal records.
Milwaukee WI = 85%,  Willimngtom DE = 90%, New Orleans, LA = 80%.
No doubt Chi-town follows the pattern.

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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 04:51:04 PM »
I would bet that if you looked into the ones that didn't have criminal records, you could add about 5% to those numbers for people that have just not been cuaght yet.
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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 06:12:46 PM »
Maybe they are using the "new math."  The real number may be much higher.

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Re: The Chicago 500
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 06:28:17 PM »
Quote from: bjtraz on December 29, 2012, 02:05:39 PM
Not to argue your point, but where did you get the "1300" number? Everything I've read put the number at the 500 listed above.

Brian

BJ, reread the 2 posts, NYC was 500, the 1300 for Chicago was on network news Friday they were bragging they were down from 1500.
It may have been shootings in general, not just fatal ones.
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