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Time for CDOW to speak up?
« on: March 04, 2013, 10:26:52 AM »
As MB has mentioned in his blog, there seems to be a movement afoot to encourage out of state hunters to stay away from Colorado as it will be a legal maze for those coming in from the "unoccupied zones". If that takes hold, that could mean big trouble for the Division of Wildlife. If they are not already engaged, how can we encourage them to get in the fight before its over?  :P

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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 02:29:40 PM »
You might point out that if there are no hunters then there is no need for a "Division of wildlife.

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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 03:18:53 PM »

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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 03:24:01 PM »
Might be more need.

Without hunters paying for the privilege of assisting in the DOW in it's management of wildlife, the DOW would have to pay to get job done, but they would still need to manage it.
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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 04:25:49 PM »
Solus, The DOW has always prided itself on the fact that their revenue all comes from sales of hunting and fishing licenses, so a decrease in license sales means a direct decrease in their funding.  It don't want to wish them ill will, in fact I am a volunteer Hunter Ed instructor and have a lot of respect for the people that are employed by DOW.  But they not only have a dog in this fight, they have the credibility to get the Governor's ear at a time when our point of view seems to be irrelivent to the Dems.  If their plan is to lay low and not make waves, it could bite them in the butt.  I for one will not feel guilty about encouraging out of state hunters to stay away, I may even sit this season out myself, and go to Wyoming to hunt this fall. Maybe by pitting the State Division of Parks and Wildlife against the Legislature we will get someones attention.   >:(

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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 04:40:16 PM »
Might be more need.

Without hunters paying for the privilege of assisting in the DOW in it's management of wildlife, the DOW would have to pay to get job done, but they would still need to manage it.

You are forgetting that the environmentalist wacko's think that hunting is decimating wildlife. They have no understanding of management, and would probably be supportive of doing away with the DOW, in favor of rolling the entire operation over to the EPA. And there is enough of these clowns on CO to push that agenda.
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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 04:43:14 PM »
Solus, The DOW has always prided itself on the fact that their revenue all comes from sales of hunting and fishing licenses, so a decrease in license sales means a direct decrease in their funding.  It don't want to wish them ill will, in fact I am a volunteer Hunter Ed instructor and have a lot of respect for the people that are employed by DOW.  But they not only have a dog in this fight, they have the credibility to get the Governor's ear at a time when our point of view seems to be irrelivent to the Dems.  If their plan is to lay low and not make waves, it could bite them in the butt.  I for one will not feel guilty about encouraging out of state hunters to stay away, I may even sit this season out myself, and go to Wyoming to hunt this fall. Maybe by pitting the State Division of Parks and Wildlife against the Legislature we will get someones attention.   >:(

Nothing I said disagrees with your statement.

They were not created to sell hunting licenses but to manage wildlife in the stare.  Part of that is setting hunting quotas etc...and selling hunting licenses...which pay the bill.

What I am saying is if they discourage hunting with state laws, the job still needs to get done.  Hunters help manage wildlife by "culling the herd" under DOW guidelines each season.  Without hunters, that work will still need to be done, they just won't have folks paying to do it.
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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 05:12:04 PM »
Perhaps CO should let mother nature take care of itself for a few years while the state government pulls its head out? Money talks; politicians take.
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Re: Time for CDOW to speak up?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 05:53:41 PM »
Perhaps CO should let mother nature take care of itself for a few years while the state government pulls its head out? Money talks; politicians take.

It might work.  When the deer starve and vanish, the wolves will be looking in back yards for dogs and small children.
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