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tombogan03884

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2013, 05:49:39 AM »
It's to early in the day for me to do this.
What exactly does the Constitution say ?

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2013, 10:07:25 AM »
My issue with this action of signing is not the content itself.  My issue is that it has been done without the support needed to ratify it. 

Pres. BHO knows that he can not get this through, so why did he order Sec. Kerry to sign it?  "You have to pass it to know what is in it!"

Inventory the ammunition, oil the guns, and hang on for the ride boys and girls.
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tombogan03884

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2013, 11:55:03 AM »
OK, it's later, I've had more coffee and my brain is working .
http://constitutionus.com/

Article II
Section 2

2:  He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

Needs 66 votes and he doesn't have them.

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2013, 12:17:40 PM »
Even though I know he doesn't have the votes and shouldn't be able to move this treaty any farther, I've seen this administration given lemons and somehow be able to make shit sandwiches from them for the rest of us to eat often enough to not be very comfortable with any reassurances.

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2013, 04:19:15 PM »
OK, it's later, I've had more coffee and my brain is working .
http://constitutionus.com/

Article II
Section 2

2:  He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

Needs 66 votes and he doesn't have them.

Two items:

1.  Pres. BHO has told the international community that he supports this above the Constitution of the United States;

2.  Knowing that he does not have the votes, rather than working through the process as outlined in our Constitution he had Sec. Kerry sign it.

Two messages were sent in this event:

1.  Pres. BHO told the world, including citizens of the United States, that he does not care about the Constitution of the United States;

2.  That he does not care about the process.

When we have a President who openly thumbs his nose at our founding and governing documents, what makes you think he will ever follow them?
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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 07:14:02 AM »
If you tolerate it, you deserve it.
Use 'em or lose 'em.

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 07:35:57 AM »
Two messages were sent in this event:

1.  Pres. BHO told the world, including citizens of the United States, that he does not care about the Constitution of the United States;

2.  That he does not care about the process.

When we have a President who openly thumbs his nose at our founding and governing documents, what makes you think he will ever follow them?

He "sent" those two messages long before he had Kerry sign this bull$h!t "treaty". Anyone from Chicago knew he was like this long before he ever entered Presidential politics. The man was a full blown communist when he was a kid. The problem is many people have to be hit over the head with something like this, before they realize the person in question is a flaming communist, who has zero business in ANY form of public service in this country. Now of course, it's too late. This country put electing a black as President above any and all common sense. A classic case of closing the barn door after the last horse runs off.

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 08:34:35 AM »
If you tolerate it, you deserve it.
Use 'em or lose 'em.

You had better stock up on API rounds if you're intention is to "use 'em".

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/30/us-police-obtaining-military-vehicles-to-aid-hunt-for-criminals/

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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2013, 11:30:46 AM »
I'm not sure if the federal government and Homeland Security are fully behind law enforcement gearing and armoring up the way they are, or if it is just run away S.W.A.T. mentality that we have seen within law enforcement over the past few decades.

I get along well with most of our local law enforcement, but I had a run in with a couple of hot shots a few months ago.  The local Sheriff sat back and grinned as it happened, and the new Chief in that town was not sure why until later when the Sheriff explained.  One officer informed the group that citizens (I hate being differentiated as a citizen when it comes from law enforcement, but that is another rant) must disclose they have a weapon when in the proximity of an "officer of the law."  WRONG!!! And, I can quote statute ... Better yet, I asked him to quote statute, and he could not.  The Sheriff corrected him and shook his head.  The second was a female city officer on a testosterone high who claimed that while they can video and record us from and in their cars without due process, we can not video, record, or photograph anything they do without their permission.  Another interesting moment as she entered my world, and shall we say entertaining for the Sheriff and Deputies who know me.

Mean while, back at the ranch, we have a run away law enforcement system, with a group of Wyatt Earps who think the sun rises and sets on them and them alone, and that they are god almighty. 
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Re: Kerrey Signs UN Small Arms Treaty
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2013, 11:39:15 AM »
Power and authority are very dangerous commodities when taken in large doses. Much like drugs and alcohol, it becomes a runaway train that usually hurts or damages innocent parties.

 

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