Some people...

[MikeBjerum]

I believe that it was Pres. Reagan who tried to do away with this type of lawsuit.  How much less would our medical care cost if we weren't required to pay for these stupid settlements?  Did you have a stroke after the procedure or device intended to stop your current damage failed?  Did you lose your hair to chemo treatment that saved your life?  Are you upset because your erection lasted five hours and you ran out of horny hookers?  Are you afraid of the big bad Courts because the Second Amendment allows free law abiding citizens to carry guns in your place of business?

[billt]

I believe that it was Pres. Reagan who tried to do away with this type of lawsuit.

Tort reform is all but impossible to get passed in any capacity. When you have an entire Legislative Branch of the government that is packed solid with lawyers.

 https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+percentage+of+House+and+Senate+members+are+lawyers%3F

"In the last Congress 39 percent of the House members were lawyers, along with 57 percent of U.S. senators."

[Big Frank]

I can understand TAB's not wanting any more liability as a business owner but I think he's on the wrong track. What needs to be done is to change the law so you don't have that liability but can allow CCW.

[MikeBjerum]

I can understand TAB's not wanting any more liability as a business owner but I think he's on the wrong track. What needs to be done is to change the law so you don't have that liability but can allow CCW.

TAB doesn't really have the liability.  We (He) has case law behind him.  Decades of protecting bars and liquor manufacturers who did the right thing and did not break the law themselves, and the legislation that has been used in cases that protects manufacturers and dealers when firearms are used in crime.  If his insurance company has an attorney who understands the basics, he is just fine.  But, TAB does not believe or trust this basic fact.

[TAB]

m58 have you ever delt with a work mens comp issue from the employment side?  and not the kind that are minor, I mean where a guy spends more then 24 hours in the hospital so it triggers an OSHA site review?

when I say liability I am not talking so much about being sued,( which is always a threat) but dealing with the costs and headaches that go along with the massive regulation that is at the federal and state levels.


pass a law that makes that shit go away, then I am all for having people CCW anywhere its not a danger( example high magnetic fields were you can not take ferrous metals), until they pull and idiot move like having a ND in a bathroom, then they lose that right.

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[tombogan03884]

Yeah, I'll grant you that having a doctor carry a 1911 during an MRI might be a bad idea.

[Rastus]

Yeah, I'll grant you that having a doctor carry a 1911 during an MRI might be a bad idea.

Non-magnetic stainless steel.  Where's the problem?

[tombogan03884]

I'll let you take the chance that it actually IS "non magnetic"

[billt]

Non-magnetic stainless steel.  Where's the problem?

Most of the Stainless Steel used in the firearm industry is magnetic to some degree. Remember, what makes austenitic Stainless Steel non magnetic, is it's lack of iron along with other ferrous metals. The Stainless Steel used in firearms is not "rust proof". Rather it's rust resistant. Meaning it will not only rust, but will also attract a magnet... At least to some degree. This is because it contains some ferrous metals. The reason for this is because it makes it much easier to machine. High Nickel Stainless Steel that is truly "rust proof", is also very difficult, (read costly), to machine.

[PegLeg45]

Most of the Stainless Steel used in the firearm industry is magnetic to some degree. Remember, what makes austenitic Stainless Steel non magnetic, is it's lack of iron along with other ferrous metals. The Stainless Steel used in firearms is not "rust proof". Rather it's rust resistant. Meaning it will not only rust, but will also attract a magnet... At least to some degree. This is because it contains some ferrous metals. The reason for this is because it makes it much easier to machine. High Nickel Stainless Steel that is truly "rust proof", is also very difficult, (read costly), to machine.

It welds pretty though.....