Throwing my hat in the ring with Sig

[les snyder]

this is all anecdotal, and relates to quite early models... when I first started shooting IPSC (pre USPSA) .45acp was the choice, and a friend obtained one of the SiG/Browning (P220?) pistols... held together with roll pins and with an unfavorable currency exchange rate, pretty expensive... the rails showed peening very quickly... produced a bad taste... when the real CZ75's started showing up in the States they were still quite unobtanium in Florida, so I picked up a Tanfoglio TZ 75 clone...it felt good, but when I range tested it, I used some hand load lead bullets and got poor accuracy out of it... not the gun's fault, but again a bad taste...I was comparing it to a single action P35 Browning I had that was very accurate shooting .357 dia 38 super bullets, so it went away... when I got my first Glock Gen1, one of the top shooters in the state was on the Miami PD and did a whole series of tests prior to them adopting the platform... I was impressed with his recommendation, even though the pistol was not a 1911... it was a safe queen... poor sights, weird trigger, plastic grip etc...when I started shooting 3 gun pretty seriously I started evaluating my choice of firearms... exchanged the 1100 for the Benelli, replaced the Holosight with a good optical sight, and the final straw was when I broke a 1911 barrel link in 2005 (60,000 rounds, but it had to break at Ft Benning ) I then switched to the Glock platform for competition pistols as well as carry pistols... I eat dinner with a good friend that is a pistol smith every week, and a couple of weeks ago, he was working on a SiG...just a lot of little springs to operate levers... I think the Sig engineers are a family relation to the S&W engineers that love little springs...

I've switched my optics preference to Holosun... I think they have an excellent product for a couple hundred less than Trijicon... a 507c for the M41, and a 510c for the 10/22

regards

[billt]

I eat dinner with a good friend that is a pistol smith every week, and a couple of weeks ago, he was working on a SiG...just a lot of little springs to operate levers... I think the Sig engineers are a family relation to the S&W engineers that love little springs...

regards

I agree. I think there are MANY auto pistol designs that are over engineered, and overly complex with far too many small, breakable parts. Sig and S&W among them.

[alfsauve]

I think there are MANY auto pistol designs that are over engineered, and overly complex with far too many small, breakable parts. Sig and S&W among them.

One of my beefs with the S&W M&P is the little lever on the inside that you have to get a little pokey-tool and push it down in order to remove the slide.    Maybe newer version don't have that, but I considered it a very weak design.   Lock slide back, turn disassembly lever, release slide.  That's all it should be.


I did shoot the new competition ready PT-92 this week.  But again, more of an Open gun platform. 

[billt]

You can love or hate Glock all you want. One of it's many successful features is it's simple design. With only 34 parts in the entire gun, it's reliability is legendary. I've always said, if I had to exist in a bad place, and was allowed only one rifle and pistol, I would choose a Glock and a AK-47. If I died, at least it would not be from over engineered, complex weapons.

[TAB]

You can love or hate Glock all you want. One of it's many successful features is it's simple design. With only 34 parts in the entire gun, it's reliability is legendary. I've always said, if I had to exist in a bad place, and was allowed only one rifle and pistol, I would choose a Glock and a AK-47. If I died, at least it would not be from over engineered, complex weapons.

glocks have more than 34 parts.   They count alot of assemblies as 1 part, they also dont count screws as a second part, its * blank* w/ screw.  I want to say its 46 or 47 total parts.   One of thier marketing  ploys that has always bugged me.

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