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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 10:08:57 PM »
Quote from: TAB on October 26, 2008, 10:40:34 PM
Not all wolf is bad... wolf is just the name branded to a importer that gets ammo from all over.  Many 22 target pistol guys swear by thier 22 match ammo.

I just saw an ad yesterday for SK .22 ammo. That's supposed to be the company that made .22 ammo for Wolf and they were selling it under their own name. It's supposed to made in Germany.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 11:00:14 PM »
I am also sure that this affects Saigas being sold in the US, as Izmash is  also under the Robosboron(sp) umbrella.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 11:09:17 PM »
Okay there was something fom Russia I wanted but never bought. A Saiga shotgun or two. I think the .410 bore with buckshot would be a nice toy to play with. Maybe a good defensive gun too. Especially after Tromix works it over. http://www.tromix.com/Welcome.htm I'd like to get a .410 and a 12 gauge but can't afford any.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 11:37:12 PM »
410 buck is not that great... only 3 or 4 pellets depending on the load and rather its 00 or 000.


I would much rather have something like 2 or BBs in lead then buck of a 410.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 11:48:10 PM »
I tried looking in the Federal Register to see the exact scope of the sanctions against Rosoboronexport ( it is the Russian state umbrella company for all the foreign arms sales and all arms companies fall under it.) It seems that the intent of the sanctions is to target Sukhoi specifically, but I couldn't find the specific decision and whether it indeed just targets Sukhoi or Rosoboronexport and all its enterprises.

This is the best article on the subject I could find:

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/us-ban-on-russian-defense-firms-raises-the-stakes-02522/


It looks like Tula(Wolf ) ammo and the Saiga's should be OK but the article doesn't present the complete wording of the sanctions.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2008, 01:22:32 AM »
Quote from: TAB on October 27, 2008, 11:37:12 PM
410 buck is not that great... only 3 or 4 pellets depending on the load and rather its 00 or 000.


I would much rather have something like 2 or BBs in lead then buck of a 410.

You can get 5 000 Buck in 3" shells but only 3 000 Buck in 2-1/2" shells. Winchester makes them both.
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Re: Did our government just shut off Wolf ammo
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2008, 05:18:10 PM »
The Wolf .22 match stuff IS very good and IS made in Germany, at least the stuff I have is.
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