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The Future
« on: January 18, 2009, 03:38:33 AM »
I saw this only this today.


I know nothing about this bloke or his political connections, etc. But what he has to say is scary and very much in line with other information that I get from Europe and UK.

As I said on another thread, I feel the UK is beyond resurrection because of multiculturalism and an uncontrolled immigration policy.  I hope I am wrong, but we should watch the situation closely and learn from it.


: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:32 PM


In a message dated 1/6/2009 2:14:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, SDRJR5 writes:

America as the last man standing



'In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe?'

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.

The speech was sponsored by the Hudson Institute on September 25.

Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West.  The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe. 

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam.  To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system.. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate.  Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

 The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries.   Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.  ,.

 The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza.  If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

 Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

 Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.   The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor.  I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything.  So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so
 
Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. The only thing you can’t do is ignore them

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Re: The Future
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 04:40:42 AM »
Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.   The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor.  I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

Well, I know that the majority here believe that Hamas is the aggressor, even in Los Angeles. I new England was pretty bad, but I didn't know that all of Europe was there too. Is it like that in Austrailia.

We have this going on, which is the beginning of a similar problem:

California has become the first state to mandate HMOs to provide patients with translators when they’re with a doctor, either in person, over a phone line or during a web conference, the Associated Press reports.
The law was passed in 2003 to help non-English speaking patients better communicate with their doctors — a particular concern in California, where 42.6 percent of the population doesn’t speak English at home, according to 2007 census figures. In some populations, such as Vietnamese and Korean communities, 60 percent of the population has limited English proficiency, the AP reports.
It took effect Jan. 1 after several delays.
Insurance companies estimate statewide that the law would cost a combined $25 million to implement, though actual costs may vary


Of course, as soon as an HMO doesn't have a translator that speaks a particular language, and someone dies, the lawsuits will make the dollar amount skyrocket.

The foreign-born population of this country must be an Americanized population - no other kind can fight the battles of America either in war or peace. It must talk the language of its native-born fellow-citizens, it must possess American citizenship and American ideals. It must stand firm by its oath of allegiance in word and deed and must show that in very fact it has renounced allegiance to every prince, potentate, or foreign government. It must be maintained on an American standard of living so as to prevent labor disturbances in important plants and at critical times. None of these objects can be secured as long as we have immigrant colonies, ghettos, and immigrant sections, and above all they cannot be assured so long as we consider the immigrant only as an industrial asset. The immigrant must not be allowed to drift or to be put at the mercy of the exploiter. Our object is to not to imitate one of the older racial types, but to maintain a new American type and then to secure loyalty to this type. We cannot secure such loyalty unless we make this a country where men shall feel that they have justice and also where they shall feel that they are required to perform the duties imposed upon them. The policy of "Let alone" which we have hitherto pursued is thoroughly vicious from two stand-points. By this policy we have permitted the immigrants, and too often the native-born laborers as well, to suffer injustice. Moreover, by this policy we have failed to impress upon the immigrant and upon the native-born as well that they are expected to do justice as well as to receive justice, that they are expected to be heartily and actively and single-mindedly loyal to the flag no less than to benefit by living under it.
Theodore Roosevelt


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Re: The Future
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 05:45:29 AM »
Well, I know that the majority here believe that Hamas is the aggressor, even in Los Angeles. I new England was pretty bad, but I didn't know that all of Europe was there too. Is it like that in Austrailia.



over here 

it is like that in some parts of Sydney and Melbourne 

where I am it is more Sudanese  more than middle eastern  however they are also mostly  Muslim

at the moment there is  a push to have the burkas that they have banned in shops, servos, stores, as they conceal there faces however  everyone else has to either remove helmets or not where hoods on when in shops

going to be interesting to see how that one goes 
Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. The only thing you can’t do is ignore them

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Re: The Future
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 11:33:41 AM »
  Rome fed Christians to the lions, Germany fed Jews to the ovens, is Islams turn coming ?

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Re: The Future
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 12:57:39 PM »
Its about time someone from Europe spoke the truth about what is happening instead of pandering to them. It makes me sick to see countries make special exemptions and considerations to that cult.   >:(
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Re: The Future
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Re: The Future
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 05:19:23 PM »
 How can any one with an ounce of sense expect a "religion of peace" from a guy who made his living robbing caravans and like his wives under 13 ?

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Re: The Future
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 05:50:44 PM »
George Bush on Islam.

n the President’s Words: Respecting Islam

The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and freedom, and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world's Muslims know that America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam.

# "Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."

"Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind."

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America.

"Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."

"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."


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Re: The Future
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 05:55:34 PM »
Islam divides the world into "The House of Submission" and the "House of War", That's all.Islam has a long tradition of advocating Justus, in regards to "diversity".

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Re: The Future
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 03:15:40 PM »


Subject: Can a good Muslim be a good American?


 

>Of Course this applies to Canada and for that matter the whole of Western
>Europe as well.
>
>This is something I've wondered about for some time now: How & why do the
>Muslims hate us & everyone else so much? Doesn't their God teach them to
>love?
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>Can a good Muslim be a good American?
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>I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
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>The following is his reply:
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>Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of
>Arabia .
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>Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except
>Islam (Quran, 2:256)
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>Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam
>and the Quran (Koran).
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>Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns
>in prayer five times a day.
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>Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends
>with Christians or Jews.
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>Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders),
>who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great
>Satan.
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>Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat
>and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
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>Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution
>since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be
>corrupt.
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>Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow
>freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
>Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic
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>Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
>Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
>heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent
>names.
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>Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very
>suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both
>"good" Muslims and good Americans.
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>Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.
>
>If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements,
>perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand
>this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
>
>Pass it on, Fellow Americans.
>
>The war is bigger than we know or understand.
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