Waterboarding

[twyacht]

The "Stress positions" used by the Brits on IRA suspects,
1) Suspect "assumes the position" as if being frisked, you put the bucket over his head, then kick his feet out further and wider apart, this puts most of their weight on their hands and arms, wallop pail at random intervals.
2) Suspect kneels on floor with broomstick behind knees
This is the one the IRA and Shiites used, it has also been included in Al Queda training manuals
3) Using a battery powered drill and 1/2-3/4 inch Spade bit, drill through knee caps elbows and other joints.
4) Isolation, Keep the suspect isolated in a confined space with no access to the out side, keep them awake and feed them at random times, play tapes of someone screaming their toenails out in the next room, continue for at least 72 hours.

Now that IS a permanent, debilitating technique.  Review the arrests made at Duke University Sigma Phi Epsilon frat for their hazing or hell week. Newbies ate feces, were sleep deprived, performed hard labor, cattle prodded to various parts of the anatomy, and sodomized. IMHO I'll take the waterboarding, or pail over the head, beat me up,  just not that,....

[tombogan03884]

Somehow, I think I mentioned that that's not the point. Its about reciprocity. If you would call it torture if it were done to Jessica Lynch, don't do it! Why do you not get that?
FQ13
PS For anybody who thinks I'm an idealistic idiot (yes you Tom) bear in mind that the Nazis summarily executed or worse, captured Sovs. Our guys, and the Brits were generally, though not always, treated ok (for very large values of ok, but still a lot better than the alternative). This was in part motivated by racial ideology, but also because they knew we were treating their guys decently. And this was from the folks that brought you Auschwitz.
FQ13

They do worse to their own people, so quit trying to foist that socialist bullshit off on us. to many are Veterans who are willing to tell you , "Your full of crap".
FQ has obviously never been active duty Military. If I thought it would save American lives I would not hesitate to shoot one prisoner before questioning another, or take out his eyeball to make him "see it my way", and that would be to protect STRANGERS.
By the way FQ, I don't think you are "idealistic" I just think your an rose tinted ignorant ass.

[Rastus]

Now that IS a permanent, debilitating technique.  Review the arrests made at Duke University Sigma Phi Epsilon frat for their hazing or hell week. Newbies ate feces, were sleep deprived, performed hard labor, cattle prodded to various parts of the anatomy, and sodomized. IMHO I'll take the waterboarding, or pail over the head, beat me up,  just not that,....

You know...that's wanting to be a part of something too much.  Eating ^)^%R and getting sodomized.....would close a guy's eyes around here.

[PegLeg45]

You know...that's wanting to be a part of something too much.  Eating ^)^%R and getting sodomized.....would close a guy's eyes around here.

You got that right....I ain't EVER wanted to be a part of ANYTHING anywhere CLOSE to THAT much.



Something like that would call for a trip to wally world for a "disposable" weapon and ammo in my book.