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What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
« on: November 10, 2009, 06:20:15 AM »
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According to the Seattle Times, the suspect in the slaying of Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton has been labeled as a “domestic terrorist” by Assistant Seattle Police Chief Jim Pugel.
   Nobody in an official capacity appears to have slapped that label on Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, although there has been plenty of banter about that involving people like Dick Morris and even Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who is now asking for a probe into Hasan’s background. (Indeed, one has to work hard to find anyone using that label in relation to Naveed Haq, the man on trial – for the second time – in the shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle office in July 2006.) I touched on this in a previous column.
 
Mr. Lieberman said that if news reports were true that Mr. Hasan had turned to Islamic extremism, "the murder of these 13 people was a terrorist act and, in fact, it was the most-destructive terrorist act to be committed on American soil since 9/11."—Wall Street Journal
 
   The suspect in Brenton’s murder, 41-year-old Christopher John Monfort of Tukwila, does not have a criminal background. There is nothing to suggest he would do something like this, or torch four Seattle police vehicles, as is now being suggested. It was reported that at one time, he professed an interest in a law enforcement career. The fact that he apparently owned, or at least had in his possession, a couple of rifles – one of them a semi-auto – is not extraordinary in and of itself. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of American citizens own such rifles. Lots of Americans own lots of guns, a lot more than Monfort apparently owned, and they are not criminals and have harmed nobody.
 
On Saturday, Seattle Assistant Police Chief Jim Pugel called Monfort a "domestic terrorist."
 
   We are learning more about Monfort than perhaps anybody wanted to know.
   Is he a “domestic terrorist” or just a common criminal?
   Reports say police have recovered bomb-making materials and some “improvised explosive devices” in their search of Monfort’s apartment and storage locker. He allegedly drew a handgun on a trio of police detectives and unsuccessfully tried to shoot at them.
   And what about Hasan? We are learning a great deal about him as well, not the least of which details is that he was apparently on the FBI’s radar screen, and he allegedly tried to make contact with Al Qaeda. He walked into a large room, allegedly yelled “Allahu Akbar” and opened fire with two handguns, a semi-auto and a revolver, and now 13 people are dead and another 30 are recovering from their wounds. Hasan, like Monfort, is in a hospital recovering from wounds as well.
 
The dividing line, of course, between a terrorist and a psychopathic killer is political motivation. His statements right before opening fire would indicate that Hasan was motivated by fanaticism and a commitment to Islamic fascism, even though President Obama bends over backwards to avoid saying so. – Dick Morris
 
   While Seattle’s Assistant Chief Pugel clearly has the fortitude to use the term “domestic terrorist,” no official so closely involved with the Fort Hood case has likewise shown that kind of candor.
 
Hasan used ‘cop killer’ pistol? What is that?
 
   Meanwhile, ABC News is now breathlessly reporting that one of the pistols Hasan allegedly used in the Fort Hood attack was the FN Herstal “Five-seveN,” which has been branded the “cop killer pistol.”
   Gun rights advocates and ballistics experts would argue there is no good reason for such a label. As noted by the Confederate Yankee website, there is no known record of a single American police officer having been killed with this pistol or the cartridge it uses.
   The pistol fires a 5.7x28mm necked cartridge that is roughly the same size as a .22 Magnum, with a lighter bullet but faster velocity and more energy. The bullet shape and its .224-inch diameter, combined with the velocity, could allow it to penetrate soft body armor, but some 9mm and .357 Magnum bullets will do that, also.
   Larry Sterett did a review of the pistol and cartridge in the pages of Gun Week in 2005.
   The term “cop killer” was invented by the gun control lobby first to describe bullets that will penetrate a ballistic vest, but literally any bullet fired from a centerfire hunting rifle will do that. This is why the National Rifle Association and other groups energetically fought legislation to ban so-called “cop killer” bullets. The statute would have literally outlawed every centerfire rifle cartridge used by American big game hunters.
   The term is now being used to demonize a lightweight, smallbore pistol that has no history of use against police officers.
   Watch for a concerted effort to blame the FN Herstal “Five-seveN” pistol and its cartridge for the carnage at Fort Hood.
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Re: What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 10:29:21 AM »
Of course they'll demonize and blame the carnage on the TOOL.  (The tool used by the terrorist bastard who did the shooting, not the tool that pulled the trigger.......just for clarity, you understand)

Blaming the tool HOLDING the weapon does NOTHING to further the agenda of the gun-grabbers.
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Re: What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 01:07:34 AM »

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Re: What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 08:36:52 AM »
Two great videos!  Thanks guys.
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Re: What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
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Re: What defines a ‘domestic terrorist?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 08:44:56 AM »
Its just like saying every man is a rapist, just because he has the tools doesn't mean that its that way. Also every woman is a hooker she is sitting on a gold mine.
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