Now this is just stupid

[ericire12]

Yeah.... cause that would just be silly.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States

Haynes v. United States

390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that "No person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."
The National Firearms Act of 1934 required the registration of certain types of firearms.

Miles Edward Haynes was a convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the above mentioned act. Haynes, however, argued that because he was a convicted felon, and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register was essentially requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was thus a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.
[edit] The Court's decision

In an 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Haynes. (Thurgood Marshall did not participate in the ruling.)


Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that "No person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."

More here:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=390&invol=85

[tombogan03884]

I've mentioned that before but did not know the case reference.

[ericire12]

I've mentioned that before but did not know the case reference.

I never knew of it.... its astounding..... But it did remind me that I have to renew my CWP soon! Groan!

[tombogan03884]

I never knew of it.... its astounding..... But it did remind me that I have to renew my CWP soon! Groan!

Thanks for the reminder,     I've got another 13 months 

[Timothy]

Tom, my NH still hasn't come in.  What I thought was my renewal was not.  It was a request for another check for the fee because I put 2008 on the check instead of 2009 and they wouldn't honor it.  That was several months ago and still no license...I'm going to have to give them a call.  I sure hope they don't wack me for another 100 bucks.  I put in my renewal in February...

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[tombogan03884]

I'd get right on them, the LAW reads 14 days or a written reason why not.

[Timothy]

I'd get right on them, the LAW reads 14 days or a written reason why not.

True but that's for the residents.  When I called back in April, they said they were months behind in the paperwork because of the backlog.  I'll call them next week sometime.

[PegLeg45]

That reminds me of some of the ridiculous cases I read one night (being a hopeless insomniac, I was to the point of reading Georgia case law on firearms related cases for fun).

People (lawyers) can come up with some hellacious arguments that go beyond asinine.

[tombogan03884]

While it is BS  it is a perfectly logical interpretation of the 5th A.
It is also a poster child for why anti 2nd A laws are pointless.

[bulldog75]

Defense attorneys (hired liars).